Gauging interest: Sprint of something in CPM-D2?

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What is your stance?

I would strongly consider a practical sprint in CPM-D2 (or non-CPM).
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I would not consider a practical sprint in CPM-D2 (or non-CPM).
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Gauging interest: Sprint of something in CPM-D2?

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Maybe CPM-D2 isn't as trendy as it once was but would anyone be interested in it as a sprint for a model? It's a relatively tough, hi wear, nearly stainless tool steel for those who don't know. CTS-XHP was presented to us as "a stainless equivalent to CPM-D2," and personally I don't care about the stainless part. Not if it costs extra ;) .

This is from Spyderco's Edge-U-Cation page:


Carbon (C) 1.55 Chromium (Cr) 11.50
Cobalt (Co) -- Niobium (Nb) --
Copper (Cu) -- Manganese (Mn) 0.35
Molybdenum (Mo) 0.90 Nickel (Ni) --
Nitrogen (N) -- Phosphorus (P) --
Silicon (Si) 0.45 Sulphur (S) --
Tungsten (W) -- Vanadium (V) 0.80


I'm thinking something like...

* Manix2 Lightweight
* UKPK Lightweight (our Euro friends deserve something too!)
* Potentially a Tenacious of Spyderco is seriously considering shipping steel

Again, not trying to aim for the Ferrari price range of 3V, 110v, unobtainium. No g10, cf, or fossilized dinosaur bone. A working Sprint for the common Joe.

People have been begging for a "better steel" for the Tenacious and it seems at least this would be different enough from 8Cr. I would grab one in a heartbeat as a real work knife.

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the Jester in D2 would be in my pocket half a second. Or the UK pen knife drop point partially serrated.
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Yup, I like D2. As long as I like the model, I'd be in.
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Powdered D2 might push me to pick up a lightweight Manix2. Dark green translucent scales would be cool. Probably easiest to keep production in Golden given the steel. Is there any CPMD2 available? Keeping the polymer scales I can't imagine the price of steel raising the price significantly. 2.8oz of work knife would be sweet!
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I like D-2 and it's new cousin XHP even better but sure I would like some kind of a Sprint run in D-2. But nailing down one practical user type Spyder out of the wide selection isn't easy.

So off the top of my head I would like to maybe see one of the following models in D-2. First and foremost how about a Rhino Horn Lil Temperance model in D-2? That's one Golden CO USA model I can think of that would be superb in that blade steel. Or how about a Chinook III in D-2?

A Hawkbill would also be cool in D-2. Either a Superhawk SE or PE. Or a Harpy in D-2.

The Ayoob fastly becoming one of my most favorite PE Spyders as well as the SE version would gracefully adorn a D-2 blade nicely.

One last suggestion that I know many of you would like to see. In the fixed blade category what about a Temperance 1 model in D-2? SE and PE as well.
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CPM D2 would be awsome. My preference in order would be:

Para 2
Native 5
Manix XL

Any of these, any colour scale within reason and I would be purchasing.
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I wouldn't buy something just for that steel, but if I liked the knife as a whole I'd be interested. A Manix 2? Probably not. A Lil Temp, definitely!
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Kershaw uses CPM-D2 in a number of knives (Usually in combination with another steel forming the majority of the blade with the D2 just on the edge), so it's still being made or they bought a huge supply when it was.

I like it a lot in my Paramilitary; it would be nice to have it come back in a PM2 or Manix 2 run. That'd be enough to make me actually want to play the preorder game to try to buy one of those two models. A fixed blade would be nifty too; maybe a Swick or something based on the Aqua Salt?
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Not D2, but CPM M4 would be bit.
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Yea I'm thinking something in the street price of $60-80 amidst the plethora of $100+ (or even $200+) Spyderco knives.

If shooting for the moon a Lil Temp Sprint in CPM-M4 would be my personal pick. While that is indeed a "working folder" it's not a "folder for the working man". Not by my wallet at least. :) All great ideas though! All of the mentions so far are definitely tempting.

I may just hold out for those Superblue FRN knives at some point down the pipe. If they do a Superblue Dragonfly2 I'll put a couple in the safe for a rainy day. :D
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Blerv wrote:and personally I don't care about the stainless part.

* Manix2 Lightweight
How to check for rust on the tang of a blade that is pivot pinned ?
IMHO, the combination of non-stainless steel and pivot pinned blade is a bad idea.
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CPM-D2 didn't sell well in the Para, and I think there are so many newer steels that are equivalent or better in performance that from a manufacturer's point of view it probably isn't worth the effort, the big exception being Dozier, whose reputation is tied to his D2 (which is ingot, rather than powder tech).
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I'd be all over a D2 UKPK lightweight in any configuration.
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Tally-ho wrote:How to check for rust on the tang of a blade that is pivot pinned ?
IMHO, the combination of non-stainless steel and pivot pinned blade is a bad idea.
Opinel and Case have been doing this with carbon blades for over 100 years. Compared to 1095 (or the equivalent) CPM-D2 is like H1.
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I'd like it, Blake but I'd rather see more M4.....

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kbuzbee wrote:I'd like it, Blake but I'd rather see more M4.....

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Wouldn't we all ;) ?

I guess a good question is: how much does steel price impact MSRP on cheaper knives? While Spyderco can't shed deep dark secrets if for example a Native FRN with S30v MSRP's for $109.95 would a CPM-M4 one MSRP for $129.95 or $149.95?

Furthermore does anyone like FRN knives with exciting/different steels? It's personally my favorite material and that's not just because I'm cheap. :p
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I'm not a big FRN fan. But I think that for a work knife...something that is going to get a little bit abused from time to time...I think it is ok. So I think that I would be ok with D2 or 1095 with FRN.
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DeathBySnooSnoo wrote:I'm not a big FRN fan. But I think that for a work knife...something that is going to get a little bit abused from time to time...I think it is ok. So I think that I would be ok with D2 or 1095 with FRN.
My thoughts as well. At this point in my life (and current acquisition status) I'll stick with CF/G10/Micarta etc. but I get folks wanting FRN.

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Corrosion resistance is a big factor in my steel choice, D2 is poor at best IMO in this regard. I had a CPM-D2 Benchmade and wasn't terribly impressed with it's edge retention either. Sorry to be a rain cloud but count me out.
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evanPGH wrote:Corrosion resistance is a big factor in my steel choice, D2 is poor at best IMO in this regard. I had a CPM-D2 Benchmade and wasn't terribly impressed with it's edge retention either. Sorry to be a rain cloud but count me out.
D2 has pretty good edge retention...with a proper heat treat is probably as good or better than S30V.
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