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Label on my kid's pajamas. Sent a little chill through me.

Tod

That about sums it up. Gotta love Walmart.

Crazy, OTOH, better to have them sewing PJs than making weapons.

tr4022 wrote:Label on my kid's pajamas. Sent a little chill through me.

No offense, but that's about as surprising as a fat kid loving cake.

Hmm
Already for ages clothing is manufactured in low income production countries. Most of it in Asia. Already 30 years ago the latest fashion was produced in countries like Pakistan.

Here a map of 2007 of clothing production countries.

Bigger than a pair of pajamas, or clothing in general, for that matter.

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Divo wrote:Hmm
Already for ages clothing is manufactured in low income production countries. Most of it in Asia. Already 30 years ago the latest fashion was produced in countries like Pakistan.

Here a map of 2007 of clothing production countries.

That's precisely why I refuse to pay a premium for so-called "designer" clothing.

Love North Face jackets, coats, and backpacks. But I'm not paying over $30 for a freaking T-shirt with their logo on it when the average T-shirt with a design is about $12. (Okay, not the best example of designer clothing. But the point still applies.)

Our Olympic gear was all made in China as well, nothing is surprising anymore.

thog94 wrote:Our Olympic gear was all made in China as well, nothing is surprising anymore.

It wasn't supposed to be. Especially not the uniforms. But Ralph Lauren figured Made in China was "good enough."

Even though it was expected that such a ridiculous corner wouldn't be cut. Let's hear it for greed!

Designer clothing . . . What a rip-off. Some jerk who presents himself as fashion-forward, puts his name on cheaply made garments, then charges you at least 3x if not more than what the thing would be worth without his label on it. What a nice racket.

Monocrom wrote:It wasn't supposed to be. Especially not the uniforms. But Ralph Lauren figured Made in China was "good enough."

Even though it was expected that such a ridiculous corner wouldn't be cut. Let's hear it for greed!

Designer clothing . . . What a rip-off. Some jerk who presents himself as fashion-forward, puts his name on cheaply made garments, then charges you at least 3x if not more than what the thing would be worth without his label on it. What a nice racket.

If you hate overpriced clothes, take a look at True Religion. Same stuff thats in any Macys, Khols, JCPennys, etc... but with some fancy designs on the pockets.

"Made in China" pays my mortgage. For 25+ years my wife has worked in the fashion industry, where 60% of production happens in Hong Kong and mainland China, some in South America as well, some here in the USA. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indian, those are the countries where 6 year olds are chained to sewing machines, not China.

I'm inclined toward the implication of seeded irony in regard to this particular name China has chosen for their export line of clothing to the U.S. market:

FADED GLORY.

I'm guilty of owning some of these jeans, but folks this thread shed things in a different light for me.

I will endeavor even more to buy 'MADE IN USA' now more than ever, global enterprising aside.

And not just us -- Seems to me we should back with clout invested moreso in our respective country's domestic economies as acts of allegiance with and devotion to these enterprises, thereby sovereign commerce fosters echelons of national market unity with currency at work establishing domestic preference in the worldwide market.

The trade imbalance with China is problematic in particular; it seems they are rubbing our collective nose in it -- increasingly so.

- SB / BRUCE

WOTANSON1 wrote:"Made in China" pays my mortgage. For 25+ years my wife has worked in the fashion industry, where 60% of production happens in Hong Kong and mainland China, some in South America as well, some here in the USA. Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indian, those are the countries where 6 year olds are chained to sewing machines, not China.

Don't kid yourself that similar abuses don't happen in China. Every now & then, someone smuggles out a memory card with images or video showing what actually goes on in some of China's less reputable factories. Often on the outskirts of the nation where poor folks from country villages go to try to earn some money to keep their family fed. Inspectors don't bother going to those factories. And yes, some of those abuses do take place in places that make clothing. Including fashion lines.

What bothers me more than anything else that have been discussed here about the "Made In China" issue is what one of our crewmen who just got out of the Military told us.>> He said that the largest percentage of the boots and clothing for our military is now "Made In China" as well :(.

To me that just can't be good>> because what if we got engaged in a serious war how would we gear up to make our own Military clothing and accessories??

Albeit I'm beginning to wonder if things between us and China or even the Soviet Union are indeed what they tell us. I'm to the point I don't know what to believe about foreign policy anymore. But I can't help but believe that we would be much better off if we would create industry right here in our own country. But I'm also wondering if the original movie "Rollerball" with James Caan isn't happening right in front of our eyes :(

JD Spydo wrote:
To me that just can't be good>> because what if we got engaged in a serious war how would we gear up to make our own Military clothing and accessories??

If it got that serious, I would imagine the same thing that happened during WWII would happen again. The government would turn to its citizens to help manufacture what ever they needed.

Scary thought how much we depend on other countries.

SkullBouncer wrote:I'm inclined toward the implication of seeded irony in regard to this particular name China has chosen for their export line of clothing to the U.S. market:

FADED GLORY.

I'm guilty of owning some of these jeans, but folks this thread shed things in a different light for me.

I will endeavor even more to buy 'MADE IN USA' now more than ever, global enterprising aside.

And not just us -- Seems to me we should back with clout invested moreso in our respective country's domestic economies as acts of allegiance with and devotion to these enterprises, thereby sovereign commerce fosters echelons of national market unity with currency at work establishing domestic preference in the worldwide market.

The trade imbalance with China is problematic in particular; it seems they are rubbing our collective nose in it -- increasingly so.

- SB / BRUCE

Faded Glory is a Walmart brand

diamond gusset is a great usa brand of jeans-also all american clothing company-have jeans from both-

Monocrom wrote:Don't kid yourself that similar abuses don't happen in China. Every now & then, someone smuggles out a memory card with images or video showing what actually goes on in some of China's less reputable factories. Often on the outskirts of the nation where poor folks from country villages go to try to earn some money to keep their family fed. Inspectors don't bother going to those factories. And yes, some of those abuses do take place in places that make clothing. Including fashion lines.

Not in the factories my wife's companies have used. See, she's been there. Go on down to China Town in your own city, talk about sweatshops, but nothing ever gets done about it because the shop owners pay off local politicians.

Pinetreebbs wrote:Crazy, OTOH, better to have them sewing PJs than making weapons.

That is true, but they make plenty of weapon for themselves and international market as well.

ChaoticLuck wrote:If it got that serious, I would imagine the same thing that happened during WWII would happen again. The government would turn to its citizens to help manufacture what ever they needed.

This is not that easy. You need just money to buy machines. But we have no money, unless we borrow from China, which will be complicated in case of war. Probably even bigger problem will be to find human resources capable to perform the job. All of us loosing skills, which we are not using fairly fast. Working on manufacturing I can say that it takes couple years to train person to descent level machine operator. It takes longer to train set-up person. Still you need to have people, who can train them.

bh49 wrote: This is not that easy. You need just money to buy machines. But we have no money, unless we borrow from China, which will be complicated in case of war. Probably even bigger problem will be to find human resources capable to perform the job. All of us loosing skills, which we are not using fairly fast. Working on manufacturing I can say that it takes couple years to train person to descent level machine operator. It takes longer to train set-up person. Still you need to have people, who can train them.

I never said it would be easy, but I imagine the government would find resources needed to do what they need done just like they did in the 40's. I should note that my reply was about clothing, that's what I was replying to.