Would you like a Para Military 2 Salt

[KardinalSyn]

Would you like it?

- H1 steel
- Rust proof components
- hollow-ground blade
- the Para 2 design

I know that various thoughts will be going through your mind when reading this. Forget them, and instead just think whether you would like to buy one.

Please think about it.

[The Deacon]

I have zero interest in any version of the ParaMilitary 2.

[KardinalSyn]

I have zero interest in any version of the ParaMilitary 2.

Why is that please?

[Jay_Ev]

No thanks.

[The Deacon]

Why is that please?

The lock is wrong handed and, beyond that, the ParaMilitary 2 embodies pretty much everything I dislike about "tactical folders". The blade is too thick, I'm not in the market for a folding hatchet. The handle is bloated and has one of those huge "tacticool" lanyard holes that make me :rolleyes: every time I see one. If that's not enough, the name itself turns me off. Why would I want something like that when the Stretch which IMHO is **** near perfect but would be even better with a 2mm blade is available.

[Art_vandeley]

Would you like it?

- H1 steel YES
- Rust proof components YES
- hollow-ground blade Meh
- the Para 2 design YES

I`d also add

- Spyderegde
- Yellow G10

I live in a very wet environment, so a Para 2 in H1 is very welcome.

[KardinalSyn]

The lock is wrong handed and, beyond that, the ParaMilitary 2 embodies pretty much everything I dislike about "tactical folders". The blade is too thick, I'm not in the market for a folding hatchet. The handle is bloated and has one of those huge "tacticool" lanyard holes that make me :rolleyes: every time I see one. If that's not enough, the name itself turns me off. Why would I want something like that when the Stretch which IMHO is **** near perfect but would be even better with a 2mm blade is available.

Thank you for the reply. Though I do not share the same views on the Para2, I know what you mean in relation to liking or disliking a particular knife.

To ask if I may, you said that the Stretch was **** near perfect. What would you like to see improved further on the Stretch. Asking since I am looking at the ZDP version.

[KardinalSyn]

Would you like it?

- H1 steel YES
- Rust proof components YES
- hollow-ground blade Meh
- the Para 2 design YES

I`d also add

- Spyderegde
- Yellow G10

I live in a very wet environment, so a Para 2 in H1 is very welcome.

FFG is not possible with H1 steel right now. Who knows, somewhere down the line, it may be possible.

You're right. A SE version is a true must for a Salt version. For those sea faring folk and us land based folk too.

Looks like the two likes are from folk who live close to the sea. I had a Feeling that this might be the case.

[PARATOM]

The lock is wrong handed and, beyond that, the ParaMilitary 2 embodies pretty much everything I dislike about "tactical folders". The blade is too thick, I'm not in the market for a folding hatchet. The handle is bloated and has one of those huge "tacticool" lanyard holes that make me :rolleyes: every time I see one. If that's not enough, the name itself turns me off. Why would I want something like that when the Stretch which IMHO is **** near perfect but would be even better with a 2mm blade is available.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how wrong it is...

op, yes i would pending on a finished product, this will never happen though...

[phillipsted]

Agreed. This probably will never happen. To make the Para in to a Salt would entail a complete re-engineering of the product. Sal has said this before about other models...

Having said that... I'd buy one in a heartbeat!

TedP

[KardinalSyn]

I know that it might never happen guys. Just asking you all whether you would like to see one. One can dream, can't one?

That said, if Spyderco says no, that will be the end of that dream. After that, we can dream of something else. :)

[The Deacon]

Thank you for the reply. Though I do not share the same views on the Para2, I know what you mean in relation to liking or disliking a particular knife.

To ask if I may, you said that the Stretch was **** near perfect. What would you like to see improved further on the Stretch. Asking since I am looking at the ZDP version.

3mm blades are ok, definitely better than anything thicker, but the Chaparral has me spoiled so I'd love to see a Stretch with a 2mm blade. Its 14mm Spyderhole works well enough, but the Remote Release EMT's 15mm one feels even better. There's more than enough "meat" above the Stretch's Spyderhole to allow that while keeping the location and center the same. Get rid of the **** Boye dent, it's ugly and plenty of other midlock models get along just fine without one. Plus, it makes closing the knife uncomfortable when my thumb joints are acting up. Those three changes would make it a whole lot better, IMHO. Absolute perfection would be a bolster and scales version with all that, in Odin's Eye Damasteel. :D

[spyderHS08]

Yes but it would have have have to be a SPYDEREDGE!!

[sir_mike]

I would consider getting one but they would have to lose the lanyard hole as I dont care for it.

[Blerv]

Sure. :)

Move it to Japan
Have it made with titanium (or rust-proof non-blade steel) nested liners
Hollow-grind the blade
Increase MSRP substantially.

I would love to see a G10 Salt, just not the Para2.

While Spyderco has said they don't often nudge to price when starting a project I have to believe that a $200 Para2 will sell slower than a $100 one. A $300 one...well, you get my point :) .

[Evil D]

Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't most of the Salts linerless? I believe there's a reason for that....less metal to rust, and less crevices to collect water to propagate rust. I do like the idea of a pillar construction Salt though..it only makes sense that a knife designed to get wet would have a handle design that you can run water straight through for cleaning purposes, and it would even dry better that way.

All that aside, i think a H1 Stretch would be a little more likely.

[B22]

FFG is not possible with H1 steel right now. Who knows, somewhere down the line, it may be possible.

You're right. A SE version is a true must for a Salt version. For those sea faring folk and us land based folk too.

Looks like the two likes are from folk who live close to the sea. I had a Feeling that this might be the case.

Why can you not have a FFG with H1? It's the dragonfly salt a FFG salt?
New to spyderco hello guys!

[Blerv]

Why can you not have a FFG with H1? It's the dragonfly salt a FFG salt?
New to spyderco hello guys!

Technically the Dragonfly Salt is a high-hollow grind. A full flat grind requires a different process.

With H1 my understanding is since it's a work-hardening steel it increases brittleness and also puts a ton of wear on the tooling. Quite possibly it's also not the preferred method of the makers who use H1.

FFG H1 is awesome when done aftermarket. I don't think it's right for the consumer market because you lose quite a bit of toughness that H1 is known for.

[jtoler_9]

No thanks. Seems like there are already plenty of salt blades avail. Maybe a salt stretch, but no thanks on the para 2.

[B22]

Technically the Dragonfly Salt is a high-hollow grind. A full flat grind requires a different process.

With H1 my understanding is since it's a work-hardening steel it increases brittleness and also puts a ton of wear on the tooling. Quite possibly it's also not the preferred method of the makers who use H1.

FFG H1 is awesome when done aftermarket. I don't think it's right for the consumer market because you lose quite a bit of toughness that H1 is known for.

Blerv
Thanks for the info. I hope to learn much more about knives from the great people here.