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Spyderco, Sal, SHOT Show

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:42 am
by 3Speedyfish3
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It was my pleasure to meet Mr. Glesser at SHOT 2012. He was a great host in the Spyderco booth. I noticed that he spent much time just talking to folks and was very approachable. We spoke about knives and his products for about 20 minutes. Cool stuff in the works I am sworn to secrecy on (I know, no fair).

I also hit up Mike Janich for some scoop and he showed me the latest proto for the Pygmy Warrior--though I was not allowed to video like I did last year for the Yojimbo 2.

Overall, great guys and a company that listens to its consumers.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:50 am
by BalisongAddict
I keep reading that people aren't allowed to take pictures or video of the upcoming knives at the Spyderco booth. Does this mean that the nutnfancy video I have been waiting around for isn't ever going to come?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:55 am
by 3Speedyfish3
Those of us registered as Media have yellow press badges that allow us to video and photo with the permission of the vendor.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:51 am
by D1omedes
BalisongAddict wrote:I keep reading that people aren't allowed to take pictures or video of the upcoming knives at the Spyderco booth. Does this mean that the nutnfancy video I have been waiting around for isn't ever going to come?
I certainly hope not. If so, maybe Spyderco is doing this so we can receive the news via Byte Blast?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:42 am
by Nifelheim
Or probably they've noticed the Kershaw/ZT 0777 incident and are weary showing off knives that aren't going to market soon...

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:52 am
by jossta
There will still be a Nutnfancy video, you can show somethings, but not others. His videos have never shown the concept knives.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:17 am
by ValueKnifeLover
jossta wrote:There will still be a Nutnfancy video, you can show somethings, but not others. His videos have never shown the concept knives.
Whew... I was getting scared there :eek: It's probably one of my most looked forward to videos of the year... just sayin...

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:22 am
by Blerv
Glad you had fun and thanks for sharing!

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:44 pm
by feed_the_animals
Nifelheim wrote:Or probably they've noticed the Kershaw/ZT 0777 incident and are weary showing off knives that aren't going to market soon...

Sorry for not being plugged in. What was the 0777 incident? I saw that thing in Nutnfancy's ZT vid. What was wrong with it aside from being completely overwrought?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:54 pm
by Jay_Ev
feed_the_animals wrote:Sorry for not being plugged in. What was the 0777 incident? I saw that thing in Nutnfancy's ZT vid. What was wrong with it aside from being completely overwrought?
Don't quote me on this, but something like they had their knife at a show, and counterfeiters saw it & made their own cheap-o copy of it. (something along those lines).

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:00 pm
by EricTheRed
feed_the_animals wrote:Sorry for not being plugged in. What was the 0777 incident? I saw that thing in Nutnfancy's ZT vid. What was wrong with it aside from being completely overwrought?

IIRC...Kershaw basically stole nearly every part of the design except for (what I think is) the carbon fiber on the blades spine, and then went ahead and released it first (not too mention charging a whole sh!tload more than ZT has it MSRP'd) The Kershaw CEO (or someone like that) made the theft even more egregious by claiming that they had collaborated in it's original design :mad: ...which was outed as being a straight up lie by the actual designer for Zero Tolerance, though I forget who this was.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:01 pm
by Popsickle
nutnfancy.... most looked forward to video? Like lots of people i watched his videos until i learned of his douchebaggery. no longer. nutnfancy isnt the only person posting reviews on youtube.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:11 pm
by TazKristi
I wasn't in our general booth (I was in our OpFocus booth). However we did have a strict no video policy this year. I suppose an exception could have been made by Sal or Eric, but as far as I know there were no videos in the general booth either.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:17 pm
by EricTheRed
Popsickle wrote:nutnfancy.... most looked forward to video? Like lots of people i watched his videos until i learned of his douchebaggery. no longer. nutnfancy isnt the only person posting reviews on youtube.
I'm curious as to whats behind this story. :confused: A quick google search didn't really give me anything. Care to us in on the story?(or me really)

PM if ur not comfortable putting it out in the open

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:17 pm
by ValueKnifeLover
Popsickle wrote:nutnfancy.... most looked forward to video? Like lots of people i watched his videos until i learned of his douchebaggery. no longer. nutnfancy isnt the only person posting reviews on youtube.
he isn't the only person I like to watch... but I do enjoy his SHOT booth reviews... especially the :spyder: ones :) he has his moments that annoy me though but everyone does to an extent... his are just more blatant... and frequent :p I just look past it because he does bring some good points to the table usually.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:19 pm
by D1omedes
TazKristi wrote:I wasn't in our general booth (I was in our OpFocus booth). However we did have a strict no video policy this year. I suppose an exception could have been made by Sal or Eric, but as far as I know there were no videos in the general booth either.
Maybe that's why Nutnfancy hasn't posted the Spyderco video yet? Bummer. :(

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:20 pm
by Nifelheim
EricTheRed wrote:IIRC...Kershaw basically stole nearly every part of the design except for (what I think is) the carbon fiber on the blades spine, and then went ahead and released it first (not too mention charging a whole sh!tload more than ZT has it MSRP'd) The Kershaw CEO (or someone like that) made the theft even more egregious by claiming that they had collaborated in it's original design :mad: ...which was outed as being a straight up lie by the actual designer for Zero Tolerance, though I forget who this was.
Um, Zero Tolerance and Kershaw are the same company, just different brands. Both are under KAI ownership. Got your facts quite wrong there. Nevertheless, yeah ZT's design won an award at last year's Blade Show then another company copied that design and beat them to the market. Won't name any other brands here ('Shiny footprints' remember). All the other drama doesn't really matter, really. Probably that's why we don't see much videos from knife companies this year - after searching youtube I find only videos from the Benchmade booth, no others are posted. It figures.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:24 pm
by Jay_Ev
EricTheRed wrote:I'm curious as to whats behind this story. :confused: A quick google search didn't really give me anything. Care to us in on the story?(or me really)

PM if ur not comfortable putting it out in the open
I guess it's safe to say his vids are an acquired taste. Not everyone's cup 'o tea.

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:27 pm
by D1omedes
It's weird. Firearm manufacturers show off some new models that haven't yet hit production. Do they have stricter IP protection than knife companies?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:00 pm
by mikerestivo
Nifelheim wrote:Um, Zero Tolerance and Kershaw are the same company, just different brands. Both are under KAI ownership. Got your facts quite wrong there. Nevertheless, yeah ZT's design won an award at last year's Blade Show then another company copied that design and beat them to the market. Won't name any other brands here ('Shiny footprints' remember). All the other drama doesn't really matter, really. Probably that's why we don't see much videos from knife companies this year - after searching youtube I find only videos from the Benchmade booth, no others are posted. It figures.
I'm glad you brought up the fact that Kershaw and ZT are both under the KAI umbrella. I don't know the original story, but the story as shared did not make sense to me with the fact that both companies are part of the same greater corporation.