Request for Spyderco Carbon Camp Blade

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Request for Spyderco Carbon Camp Blade

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The Bushcraft, Temp2, and Schempp Rock serve great roles. I don't want to detract from them but have a question for Golden.

From time to time we hear requests or larger rugged camp knives, choppers, something made in Golden, and so-on. Is Spyderco interested in competing in that Kabar, Ontario and ESEE world? Would anyone else be interested in a larger carbon blade perhaps set-up for a paracord wrap? That way money could be put into a decent (non-dulling) sheath and where it should be: The knife. Spyderco could sell a scale kit separately or I'm sure Halpern would step up. Heck, it could share the same Mule handle I guess.

As some models in the market now cut performance corners for coolness, I would just assume a functional finish, non-polished grind like the Svord Peasant Folder or the Gransfors Bruks axes. Sharp out of the box, weighted and heat treated right, maybe even a wicked steel. Maybe even skip the Carbon and make a fixed blade version of the Tuff or large Native in 3V? Throw in a gun wipe and a letter explaining how rust works :p .

It doesn't have to be pretty, it has to kick tail and take names. The F&F fairy can visit the other knives :) .

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If this were to happen I'd freak out :D Those are my thoughts.
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I'd be very interested in something like this as well. The bushcraft looks appealing and versatile, but it is pretty expensive.
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I'm down.
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I would be pretty interested. I'd rather spend the extra money and have the scales come with the knife.
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This would be basically the Bushcraft blank, no?
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Bigger.
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Oh I am absolutly IN.... Something in the size of the southfork, with great carbon steel and ready to take some abuse. I want to chop my next christmas tree down with it :-]
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What about the Hossom line?
Doesn't really meet your steel requirements though, but I want a Forager badly.

I'd really love something along the lines of an ESEE 3 or 4. Not too big, not too small, with big fat thick blade stock so I can baton through my Christmas tree (which might be the only way I get it out of the house.)
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More unstainless.
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jossta wrote:More unstainless.
I certainly don't disagree, I'm in the market for this type of knife right now and unfortunately have to look elsewhere.
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Vanguard41xx wrote:I would be pretty interested. I'd rather spend the extra money and have the scales come with the knife.
I'm also onboard with this.

(I should really read all the posts in a thread before replying... :o )
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I think that Spyderco needs a chopper.....something along the lines of a Esee Junglas or a Bark River Golok with an Ed Schempp design and 3V steel ...now that would be something for the competition to fear... :p
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Opinions are going to vary but sometimes bigger isn't better. You can do a ton of work with a properly 6-7" blade which is far easier to carry and do some activities. Something in the Ka-Bar Fighting/Utility Knife philosophy except Spyderco-ized :) .

I would love to see a real chopper but sometimes that's asking for the keys to Dad's sports car. The Hossom line was mostly designed to do that which they were fairly (but not totally) successful at. My understanding is they fell short in almost every other area: Light vegetation, food prep, defense, carry, etc.

If Spyderco made a nose heavy blade you could carry and thrash without fear of chipping that would be cool. Something like a Bolo maybe.
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I really like knives such as the Junglas and the Ontario RTAK-II. They have carbon steel blades, are usually coated, and in this case, have really nice canvas micarta handles. The blades are usually thin enough that they work as light machetes, but are thick enough to chop with. The ideal length is around 16", with a working edge around 10"-11".

Gotta keep the street price down around $100, though, to be competitive...

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I think it's doable and would like to see some of the tackticool steps skipped (if Spyderco ever did). DLC coating or even a polished blade is a luxury for something that will be hacking logs.

Somewhere between Condor Tool and ESEE there is a middle ground on price (between $20 and $100). Not to knock them but Spyderco's approach to materials and ergonomics is hard to beat. I'd rather pay for the goods than the image.

Basic carbon steels are awesome for the task but I'm not buying the fortunate card hand quite yet. It's cheap, easy to work with and effective. A life warranty isn't Willy Wonka's golden ticket. Right now there is someone in a grass hut making a chopper out of spring steel (not 1095 but you get the point) and isn't being featured in a soldier of fortune photo shoot.
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My opinion is that Spy must go with a chopper because they have better ergonomics and heat treatment than the competition...things that will meke them top sellers for the quality oriented customer...my 2 cents..
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I would LOVE to see Spyderco pull this off. I woold prefer it in 1095 or O-1 steel with an unfinished spine. Being able to catch a spark off a flint rock is a must for this kind of blade. 6-7 inch size sounds good or even doing something similar to the Hossom line would be welcomed.

The bushcraft, IMO, is to expensive and beautiful to beat on. The Morans don't have a full tang, and I don't care for H1 on a woods blade. I understand that H1 work hardens, but I would rather see it in a steel thats ready to rock right out of the box! Not to mention the carbon aspect...
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I can see it now. A Mule XL 1095 steel, double the blade size of the original. That would give it a 6.5" blade. I would definitely be interested in that!
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Enkidude wrote:I would LOVE to see Spyderco pull this off. I woold prefer it in 1095 or O-1 steel with an unfinished spine. Being able to catch a spark off a flint rock is a must for this kind of blade. 6-7 inch size sounds good or even doing something similar to the Hossom line would be welcomed.

The bushcraft, IMO, is to expensive and beautiful to beat on. The Morans don't have a full tang, and I don't care for H1 on a woods blade. I understand that H1 work hardens, but I would rather see it in a steel thats ready to rock right out of the box! Not to mention the carbon aspect...
As nice as the Bushcraft is, it's bread and butter is "being beat on". Everything from the scandi grind to the 01 steel was chosen for this purpose.

But that doesn't preclude it from being a safe queen...it just makes Sal cry at night :p
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