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Whats up with these?????

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Check these out:



Custom REBEL FLAG Spyderco Pocket Clip Knife!

Item # 2112266093



Spyderco G-2 Police Knife No Reserve

Item # 2112285089



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Oh sweet!<img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Wonder what lucky person will get to own those fine pieces!<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

I like those No Reserve sales.....makes it easier to work with.

Good luck!<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
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Okay, what the heck has been done to that poor police model? That is not a factory design, is it?????
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it looks like someone snapped their police then reground it with a seatbelt cutter tip. heh.
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The Rebel Flag one looks just like a Pride model to me...if it isn't offered with that flag maybe they busted the original out and put that one in..or I could be wrong all around <img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

And what in the **** happened to that Police?

YIKES!!!
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I think the Pride will end up like the Q with 50 or so variants.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.--- Sun Tzu
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Don't mind my language... Carlos: you may edit if you have to...

What kind of sick f*ck would do that to a Spydie?

PS: Guess I can't use HTML in this forum... hmm...
<img src="http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/372fcedb ... 9AW3jxWudf">



Edited by - vampyrewolf on 6/12/2002 5:02:52 PM
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Poor Police...that's just sick. Also, shouldn't <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> look into how this fellow claims that he "contracted" <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> to build this Rebel custom?

I think that <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> wouldn't use the Rebel flag anyways, seeing how many people see it as objectionable. I forsee the inclusion of many flags, as they are simply pop-ins. Scottish flag, anyone?? <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

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This has to be said:

The "Rebel flag" or The Flag of the Confederate States is not racial in any way, and for you to judge it makes you worse than those you may think are involved with it.

I for one am **** proud of my Heritage and part of that is the Confederate flag. It is not a symbol of hate, I and many consider it a symbol of PRIDE. I am not a member of any hate group and don't take it like I am condoning any such activity.

Do some research on the Civil war before you make such judgements. It just makes you sound like a uneducated fool.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.--- Sun Tzu
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Raden
I am not from the south but I do agree with you on the "lost" meaning of the CSA flag. Sword and Shield is right though, that a lot of people don't see it that way, and a Pride like that could bring on heat that Spyderco does not need.

Myself I hope that the Pride has many more flags. I will try to get one of each if I can. I'm hoping for a Ukrainian flag.

I won't even guess at what happened to the Police model.

The length of our days and time of our death have been fated long ago.
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People see the rebel flag as a symbol for the confederacy, which it is. When people think confederacy, they think slavery. I've seen people upset over MUCH less likely corrolations so it doesn't suprise me that the rebel flag offends many people.

Also I don't see why anyone would take pride in the civil war. Senseless killing is nothing to take pride in. In a bloodbath no one wins or loses. The only thing good about the civil war was the eventual abolishment of slavery, which neither side was fighting for in the first place!
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This is the reason we should take pride int the civil war.

It is a constitutional issue. When the people think the government isn't doing the job the right way they hav the constitutional right to retake control of the government. In the days of the civil war the only way for this to be acomplished was to take up arms against the government that was supressing them. It was not a war about slavery. Do your research.

There was pics of a Japanese flag on a Pride. I may take offense to that since the Japanese cowardly attacked innocent citizens in Pearl Harbor.

To each their own, don't judge lest ye be judged. Who are you to say one is right and one is wrong. Freedom of choice is what this great country is based upon. <b> If you don't like it don't buy it.</b> Don't critize me cause I have one.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.--- Sun Tzu
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You are absolutely correct Raden. The American Civil War fought over a states right to allow it's citizens to hold slaves. And nothing else.

And if a black man takes offense at the highest symbol of a government whose intent was to enslave black men against their will, then he is just ignorant because that's not what the flag means anymore. Just like the Nazi flag is the rallying point of those crazy, fun loving skinheads with their metal music, wild hairdo's and beer, the Rebel Flag is the same thing to the Bo and Luke Duke good ol' county boys. Ain't hurtin' nobody are they?

I'm proud of a country that says "all men are equal". I'm not, not should you be, proud of a country that says "all men are equal but those niggers over there aint men."

Sheesh, Raden, pedal that drivel somewhere else and lets talk about knives.

-C

Edited by - CalypsoKid on 6/13/2002 2:46:56 PM
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Good mercy....<img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>


This post has really turned into a hot topic, if you catch my drift. I mean, geez guys! The USA underwent the "War between the States" how many years ago? And to think that we are still bickering about this and that according to "where we're from" and so on.
Raden, I applaude your pride and loyalty in your heritage of the South. Personally, if I could have picked a place to have been born and raised, it would have been around the Smokey Mountians. I think that Tennesee is one of the prettiest states of our nation.

Yes, I'm a Hoosier born in good old Indiana. Although I'm proud of my heritage, I won't attempt to slay the first person that makes a comment about my background. I think you should do the same. S&S was merely pointing out a valid statement, not trying to cast mud in your face. Just take a breather and think about it, bro.

It would bode us well to get along with one another, ya' know? <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

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CK,

Although I was born a "Yankee", I'm married to a "Son of the Confederacy". There were other rights that the Southern States were fighting for. In the north the history of the civil war era is taught much differently than it is taught in the south. Unless you have been exposed to both points of view, you really can't judge. The atrocities that were forces on the people of the south, whether they were confederate sympathizers or not, are not taught in the north. One of my husband's ancestors wrote a book about his experiences in the Civil War, and during "Reconstruction". I couldn't believe what was done to the South. Many Southerners lost property that had been in their families from before the Declaration of Independence.

Linda

Oh, and by the way, if you look closely at the picture of the flag, it is not of the same quality as the flags on the true Prides.

<img src="http://www.spyderco.com/forum/spyder.gif" border=O> Integrity is being good even if no-one else is watching <img src="http://www.spyderco.com/forum/spyder.gif" border=O>

Edited by - Glasshartt on 6/13/2002 5:28:15 PM
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I'll tell you why I take this subject so deaply to heart.

My Senior year of high school a good friend of mine was shot while he was filling his truck up with gas. When the 3 black males who were identifed as the shooters they never tried to hid the fact they shot him. They simply shot him because he had a "Rebel" flag painted on the tailgate of his truck. He was a honor student and played football with me, there wasn't a prejudice bone in his body.

This was also the main reason for me becoming a Police Officer. As for the 3 men who shot him they all recieved 25 to life, and I have yet to miss a parole date, and never will. It's amazing to me you can come up for parole 5yrs after killing a 17yr old boy.

I have had many people tell me I am prejudice towards blacks, hispanics and other races. I simply tell them I don't care if your black, white, or purple <b> I hate all criminals equally. </b>

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.--- Sun Tzu

Edited by - raden on 6/13/2002 6:36:35 PM
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"To each their own, don't judge lest ye be judged. Who are you to say one is right and one is wrong. Freedom of choice is what this great country is based upon. If you don't like it don't buy it. Don't critize me cause I have one. "

I don't beleive I was doing any of those things. I was just stating my opinion, and I know the war was not about slavery, which I stated in my post...
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If this were a history forum this would be a very fact lopsided debate. Linda has the right of it, the Yankees do not teach the same facts about the Civil War as the Southerns. There were a lot of reasons WE went to war with each other. And I don't think anybody was in a hurry to use war as a means to solve our issues (plural).

But this being a Spyderco forum, I think we should focus on this poser selling Spydercos that are sub-standard or faked. The flag does look fake on the Pride and who would chop off more than half of a Police blade to make a .... what is that supposed to be anyway?

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*holds up hands, appeasingly* Gentlemen, please! I said nothing about it being right or wrong to have a Rebel flag on a knife, as I personally don't mind either way. You can have whatever you desire, and it will not offend me in the least.

All I did was to point out that the flag is objectionable to some people, whether this is fair or not is a personal decision.

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This will be my last post on this topic.

This knife is a factory spyderco, call the sales dept and ask if you don't believe it. It was a limited Private run of knives they weren't sure how many were made. But it is indeed a spyderco. I suppose many different ones will be done. This was just the first variant to be seen.

To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy.--- Sun Tzu
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