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Military due for an upgrade?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:33 pm
by PureSeventyNine
Pretty simple query. Will the millies ever see a construction update like the para did. The real big difference would be the pivot bearing. Might solve that rare off centering. Flat screws, polished liner, four way clip, large lanyard hole, but this time keep the rear handle flare.
Is this something in the works, near future, or never?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:55 pm
by bammann45
Maybe throw in a compression lock? I do consider my g10 ti / m4 an upgrade :)
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:06 pm
by chuck_roxas45
No bushing pivot for the military please. It is smooth enough as it is. What do you need more smooth opening for at the price of blade play?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:10 pm
by akaAK
I like the Military as is but I am positive if Spyderco makes changes it will be for the better. Comp lock would be nice.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:32 pm
by JacksonKnives
Last I heard the Military will be a pilot model for the stop lock. Not sure if that means a phase-out of the liner lock, but I'd imagine they'll keep it around in one form or another.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:43 pm
by sal
Hi Seventynine,
We have had the Military on the design board for quite some time now. We've adapted a new lock for (stop-lock) and it's been in engineering. Then we'll make any ergo and clip adjustments and bring out a "2" model. Don't know yet if we'll use the new pivot bushing on the new Military.
We only have one engineer and Eric and I are responsible for the designs. While we also use outside designers, and we have Michael Janich in-house, the workload for so many models is often high.
I don't think we'll disco the original model when the new model comes out.
sal
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:51 pm
by PureSeventyNine
Very good news. Cant wait to try the stop lock.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:45 pm
by chuck_roxas45
sal wrote:Hi Seventynine,
We have had the Military on the design board for quite some time now. We've adapted a new lock for (stop-lock) and it's been in engineering. Then we'll make any ergo and clip adjustments and bring out a "2" model. Don't know yet if we'll use the new pivot bushing on the new Military.
We only have one engineer and Eric and I are responsible for the designs. While we also use outside designers, and we have Michael Janich in-house, the workload for so many models is often high.
I don't think we'll disco the original model when the new model comes out.
sal
Excellent news!
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:57 pm
by HellHound
Hold the phone, whats this mystery 'stop lock'? Any hints how it will work?
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:05 pm
by dj moonbat
There's a few different threads discussing the Stop Lock, including one that has links to the patent illustrations.
It's pretty different from other knife locks, and I'd say it reminds me of how one might make a lockback without a bar on the back.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:06 pm
by mapper66
HellHound wrote:Hold the phone, whats this mystery 'stop lock'? Any hints how it will work?
^^ This. I did a search, went back 7-8 pages, but didn't really find anything. Any links to info?
Edit: found a little:
http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthre ... =stop+Lock
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:08 pm
by Donut
sal wrote:
I don't think we'll disco the original model when the new model comes out.
Good, I'm fresh out of bell bottoms. :p
But really, improvements sound great. I need to do research on what everything means.
I can't believe there are so many models with so few people to work on them!
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:43 am
by HellHound
K thx, ya i wouldnt say that it looks like a newish one, reminds me of the sogs arc lock or the axis lock from BM...
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:43 am
by araneae
HellHound wrote:K thx, ya i wouldnt say that it looks like a newish one, reminds me of the sogs arc lock or the axis lock from BM...
Really? I don't see any resemblance to either of those locks. Looks more like a highly tweaked mid-lock to me.
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:01 am
by Donut
I would like to see a video or pictures of the Stop Lock in action (prototype?) to help some of the less technically inclined, like me, to know how it operates. I searched around for a bit and couldn't find much info.
It might be too much to ask, because of letting out too much information. Maybe I'm dreaming.
Maybe Michael Janich could do some magic with it, but I don't want to see him flicking a knife open with his nose. (Okay, maybe I do! :p )
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:46 pm
by HellHound
If the lock pin has 2 springs on the sides pushing it in place... I'd say we are looking at SOG's arc lock, BM's axi's lock.
Same thing diffrent cosmetic appearence. Any way,does anyone know who was the first to use a vertical moving pin or ball that slides across the carved out arc like butt of the blade and locks it in?
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:56 pm
by Tsujigiri
The stop lock operates like an axis lock? That would be great...
Does anyone know when we could expect a new Military?
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:34 pm
by araneae
Are you looking at the patent drawings and description? At any rate, the drawings show a few iterations of the mechanism, none of which look like an axis/arc to me. The only spring listed supports the lock bar that keeps the locking anvil in place.
Unlikely we'll see any pics of a yet unused lock mechanism that is still in development. It may look a bit different than the patent drawings by the time it comes out.
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:50 pm
by Zendemic
The new military sounds intriguing, but I'd probably be quite sad if the current one got disco'ed (though it's hard to say without knowing what the new one would be like).
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:01 pm
by HellHound
araneae wrote:Are you looking at the patent drawings and description? At any rate, the drawings show a few iterations of the mechanism, none of which look like an axis/arc to me. The only spring listed supports the lock bar that keeps the locking anvil in place.
Unlikely we'll see any pics of a yet unused lock mechanism that is still in development. It may look a bit different than the patent drawings by the time it comes out.
I give up! :D Will have to look at that lock when its developed ,now I think that it may reseamble the ball bearing lock if it has a main spring instead of two on the sides.