Anyone see this news thread at KC?

[RIOT]

some pretty trippy new ones coming out

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... paign=blog

[jzmtl]

Woah, manix2 weights 2.85 oz! Would prefer a harder steel than BD1 thou. Oh and low rider version of the wire clip.

[SQSAR]

Anyone know when we might see the new Manix2 in stock? I've got one pre-ordered and can't wait. Light weight, wire clip, cool aesthetics, and based off the already rock solid Manix family.

[henhen14]

i want to preorder a manix, but is BD-1 better than 154CM?

[angusW]

i want to preorder a manix, but is BD-1 better than 154CM?

I'm not sure but I bet one of the metal guru's here could tell us. Here's the info on the makeup of the steels and the steels qualities.

CTS-BD-1
Carbon 0.90
Molybdenum 0.30
Silicon 0.37
Chromium 15.50
Manganese 0.60
Vanadium 0.10

154CM
Carbon 1.05
Molybdenum 4.00
Chromium 14.00

Carbon (C)
• Increases edge retention and raises tensile strength.
• Increases hardness and improves resistance to wear and abrasion.

Molybdenum (Mo)
• Increases strength, hardness, hardenability, and toughness.
• Improves machinability and resistance to corrosion.

Silicon (Si)
• Increases strength.
• Deoxidizes and degasifies to remove oxygen from molten metal.

Chromium (Cr)
• Increases hardness, tensile strength, and toughness.
• Provides resistance to wear and corrosion.

Manganese (Mn)
• Increases hardenability, wear resistance, and tensile strength.
• Deoxidizes and degasifies to remove oxygen from molten metal.
• In larger quantities, increases hardness and brittleness.

Vanadium (V)
• Increases strength, wear resistance, and increases toughness.

[gunnut35]

The Navaja is the one i am after...

[yowzer]

Prices on Seki-made knives are getting too rich for my blood...

The Manix 2 Lightweight is the first one that I actually want to get.

[chuck_roxas45]

I'm not sure but I bet one of the metal guru's here could tell us. Here's the info on the makeup of the steels and the steels qualities.

CTS-BD-1
Carbon 0.90
Molybdenum 0.30
Silicon 0.37
Chromium 15.50
Manganese 0.60
Vanadium 0.10

154CM
Carbon 1.05
Molybdenum 4.00
Chromium 14.00

Carbon (C)
• Increases edge retention and raises tensile strength.
• Increases hardness and improves resistance to wear and abrasion.

Molybdenum (Mo)
• Increases strength, hardness, hardenability, and toughness.
• Improves machinability and resistance to corrosion.

Silicon (Si)
• Increases strength.
• Deoxidizes and degasifies to remove oxygen from molten metal.

Chromium (Cr)
• Increases hardness, tensile strength, and toughness.
• Provides resistance to wear and corrosion.

Manganese (Mn)
• Increases hardenability, wear resistance, and tensile strength.
• Deoxidizes and degasifies to remove oxygen from molten metal.
• In larger quantities, increases hardness and brittleness.

Vanadium (V)
• Increases strength, wear resistance, and increases toughness.

Edge retention tests on several steels.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=793481

[bada61265]

the photo shows 154cm. it also shows its a pinned construction vs screws except the pivot. so who knows? 154cm or bd1 ? not shure im diggin the riveted construction though. the clip is a nice change.

[cckw]

the photo shows 154cm. it also shows its a pinned construction vs screws except the pivot. so who knows? 154cm or bd1 ? not shure im diggin the riveted construction though. the clip is a nice change.

The 2011 print catalog shows it as BD-1. Given the cheaper price point of this model BD-1 makes sense.

[SmoothOne25]

some pretty trippy new ones coming out

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... paign=blog

http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46905

[Tsujigiri]

I think I'll hold out and see if they make a completely clear version of the FRN Manix, like the prototype. Then again, it doesn't seem like this model is that much cheaper than the standard Manix 2, despite the cheaper steel and handle.

[chuck_roxas45]

I think I'll hold out and see if they make a completely clear version of the FRN Manix, like the prototype. Then again, it doesn't seem like this model is that much cheaper than the standard Manix 2, despite the cheaper steel and handle.

and pinned construction.

Not that I think that's cheaper but it's an undesirable for me.

[Visual Articulation]

Navaja is def causing pockets of drool in my cheeks as i hoard away nuts to buy that blade. Lol actually that Breeden is good looking as well and superleaf, superhawk was a combo i want to own. Wish the blade cutting edge was longer on it though. lol but i wont let that dissuade me.

[Left Hand Path]

That blue Manix light-weight with wire clip looks great. Thank for the heads-up, RIOT.

[JNewell]

some pretty trippy new ones coming out

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store ... paign=blog

I think those are all in the 2011 catalog.

[Jazz]

There's another damascus Delica? Looks really nice!

- best wishes, Jazz.

[bh49]

manix2 weights 2.85 oz! Would prefer a harder steel than BD1 thou.

+1
I can be wrong, but even 440C looks better than BD1, more carbon and molly.

Then again, it doesn't seem like this model is that much cheaper than the standard Manix 2, despite the cheaper steel and handle.

The only thing I can think of that FFG is more expensive than saber grind

[The Deacon]

The only thing I can think of that FFG is more expensive than saber grind

Main reason the G-10/154CM Manix 2 is such a bargain is that it's one of the models where Spyderco has been experimenting with a lower profit margin. Perhaps they're not doing that with the FRCP version.

[jujigatame]

Don't forget the expense associated with setting up dies/tooling for the new handle on the M2 lightweight. It's possible the steel and handle are cheaper as raw materials compared to the standard M2, but getting them into the form of a knife has its own costs.