Yet another Spyderco knock off...

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Yet another Spyderco knock off...

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This makes me sad to see such an awesome knife produced so poorly :(
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I thought Columbia was better than this. I am quite bummed
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TexSierra wrote:I thought Columbia was better than this. I am quite bummed
Obviously that's not THE Columbia, assuming we're both talking about CRKT.
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Not CRKT but something else.....try: (ShuangRong) SR Columbia...Doc :eek:
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Haven't you guys heard the saying "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"?

It isn't trying to pass off as a genuine Spyderco, just copying a neat design that Spyderco came up with. ****, the polywog is discontinued, so if you wanted one you'd have to pay $150 to snag one off ebay.

I actually bought one, and it's better made than you'd think. There is zero blade play in either direction while maintaining sufficiently low opening friction. It is nice and thin (thinner than my leek) as well.

The edge came obtuse and dull, but after fixing that problem, it will at least take an edge. I haven't played with it enough to judge edge retention/stability but don't have high expectations.

It's not like its actually competing with spyderco for market share. I certainly wouldn't have paid 150 bucks for 'the real deal', and at six bucks shipped you can buy it just to see if you like the shape/ergonomics without springing for the expensive but higher quality Spyderco.

Besides, you can always give Spyderco credit for the upsides and blame shoddy manufacturing for the downsides :P
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Hey! I though that Spyderco are bringing the Poliwog back in G-10.
Supa-sweet.
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:mad: :mad: :mad:
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wow.... do they think they will get away with it? i mean all of the people that do this.. i hope they don't :mad:
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jimmyh wrote:Haven't you guys heard the saying "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"?
Hardly, it's design rip-off 101 as far as I am concerned. How much R&D money and effort did Spyderco invest in perfecting the Poliwog design? Now some other company is stealing the design and trying to pass-off a cheaper product. I'm sure they aren't paying Spyderco any royalties for the design or trademarked features such as the Spyder-hole.

Do what you want, but I certainly wouldn't buy one. :mad:
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I agree with Praxis on this one.I'm willing to bet that no royalties are being paid.You also have to consider if you or your company designed a product and put the R and D into it,that it might make you angry when a almost exact copy such as this hits the market.The eighth commandement says "thall shall not steal".True words to live by, and I consider this stealing. ;)
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I have personally seen two of these knives. They both came extremely gritty and dull, and both had some noticeable side to side play.

After some cleaning (and slight modification by one owner), the knives are serviceable and smoother, but they still seem like cheap knives, even though they feel more solid than most. They seem extremely under par when compared next to a real Poli, but then again, I'm amazed by the Poliwog every time I borrow it from my coworker. :D
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That does it! I have been wavering on getting a SS Poliwog for ages, but now I'm definitely getting one to thumb my nose at all these cheap *** rip off thieving greed pigs who steal Spyderco designs. :mad:
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dialex wrote: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Praxis wrote:Hardly, it's design rip-off 101 as far as I am concerned. How much R&D money and effort did Spyderco invest in perfecting the Poliwog design? Now some other company is stealing the design and trying to pass-off a cheaper product. I'm sure they aren't paying Spyderco any royalties for the design or trademarked features such as the Spyder-hole.

Do what you want, but I certainly wouldn't buy one. :mad:
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jimmyh wrote:Haven't you guys heard the saying "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"?

It isn't trying to pass off as a genuine Spyderco, just copying a neat design that Spyderco came up with. ****, the polywog is discontinued, so if you wanted one you'd have to pay $150 to snag one off ebay.

I actually bought one, and it's better made than you'd think. There is zero blade play in either direction while maintaining sufficiently low opening friction. It is nice and thin (thinner than my leek) as well.

The edge came obtuse and dull, but after fixing that problem, it will at least take an edge. I haven't played with it enough to judge edge retention/stability but don't have high expectations.

It's not like its actually competing with spyderco for market share. I certainly wouldn't have paid 150 bucks for 'the real deal', and at six bucks shipped you can buy it just to see if you like the shape/ergonomics without springing for the expensive but higher quality Spyderco.

Besides, you can always give Spyderco credit for the upsides and blame shoddy manufacturing for the downsides :P
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So they are actually trying to rip off TWO companies - Spyderco's design and CRKT's name. As Sal I'm sure well knows, stopping the flow of these copies is practically impossible, all we can do is NOT buy them. Sadly, enough uninformed folks WILL buy them to keep them in business... :(
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dialex wrote: :mad: :mad: :mad:
+1, agree w/ dialex
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Hi Jimmy,

What they are doing is illegal and unethical.

Many people justify their indiscretions. "I stole that because........etc."

It doesn 't make it right. My son, Eric spent hundreds of hours developing, refining and producing that design. Spyderco has spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in Intellectual property.

I was taught not to steal. I am an American. It is the way I was raised.

You are certainly entitled to your own opinion.

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Hopefully this production and sale can halted with a lawsuit.
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sal wrote:hi jimmy,

what they are doing is illegal and unethical.

Many people justify their indiscretions. "i stole that because........etc."

it doesn 't make it right. My son, eric spent hundreds of hours developing, refining and producing that design. Spyderco has spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in intellectual property.

I was taught not to steal. I am an american. It is the way i was raised.

You are certainly entitled to your own opinion.

Sal
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CombatGrappler wrote: If you DON'T think stealing is wrong, well, that's just sad.
Not so much sad as it is typical Chinese business practice... :(
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