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TSA theft

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:00 pm
by battlecreek1
So, I went to Colorado for a ski trip last week and decided to take my Native and brand new D4W (since Colorado law wouldn't allow for carry of my usual Endura). On the way there, no problems.

When we left Steamboat Springs, we flew out of the airport in Hayden. Checked my bags as usual and flew back to San Antonio. When I got home I noticed my bag wasn't zipped closed completely, so I immediately opened it and found all of my stuff rummaged thru and just stuffed haphazardly back in my bag. My first thought was 'stolen Spydies' because I had heard of it before. To my dismay, I was right. Some TSA agent decided to go thru my stuff and steal the Native and D4W :mad: I'm filing a claim, but I'm sure nothing will come of it.

I always pack my blades in my underwear to deter this exact situation, but maybe I need to zip tie thru the Spydie hole from now on. I can't stand gov't inspectors.

Rant off.

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:10 pm
by TexSierra
I would love to hear the excuse you got, about why they were going through your stuff? I am surprised there havent been big lawsuits aimed at the airline industry for this kind of stuff. It happens all the time, with all sorts of stuff!

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:23 am
by kraziekurtis
That's a real bummer. Makes me think back to just yesterday or the day before I read about a guy being charged with stealing firearms from luggage.

I hope you are able to recover your knives, in some form or fashion.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:23 am
by araneae
Sorry to hear that. It may have been an airline employee not necessarily the TSA. The TSA should have left a note in your bag stating that your bag was searched. Although if the intent was theft, I doubt they'd leave a note. If you file a complaint it should be made with your airline. Good luck and keep us posted.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:28 am
by tonydahose
sorry to hear that....the sad thing part is you can probably buy them back on ebay very shortly. :mad:

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:30 am
by FastEddie
Hope you get some satisfaction in this matter, but you can't carry an endura in Colorado? Amazing.

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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:48 am
by Netsquash
Why would they do that? It's not illegal to carry a knife in your luggage. Also what is the deal with the knives sold on e-Bay, why are they sold there?

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:17 am
by Pneumothorax
That is not cool. Next trip, I'm going to use the trick a forumite mentioned in another post - to put a lock through the Spyderhole and something inside the suitcase. Good idea, sorry, I don't remember who to give credit to though.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:09 am
by tonydahose
Netsquash wrote:Why would they do that? It's not illegal to carry a knife in your luggage. Also what is the deal with the knives sold on e-Bay, why are they sold there?
alot of the confiscations/ lost stuff goes to auctions where you can buy lets say 20lbs of knives..people buy them and then throw them on ebay individually or in lots.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:28 am
by tasmanH1salt
Wow that sucks pretty bad. I would hate to lose any of my knives especially the way you lost them. Hopefully something comes out of making that claim to TSA.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:09 am
by hopperja
Netsquash wrote:Why would they do that? It's not illegal to carry a knife in your luggage. Also what is the deal with the knives sold on e-Bay, why are they sold there?
Why would they do that? Because they can.

I had a digital camera taken from my luggage a few years back. The TSA Inspector left the TSA note in my bag, and it was ziptied closed with a blue zip tie. I filed a claim but TSA wouldn't pay it because I couldn't prove it wasn't an airline employee.

I made a recommendation that TSA put some sort of number on the tag to identify who searched the bag. Much like when I buy new underwear when I find the "Inspected by" tag. Until there's some sort of system to track who is in the bags, or the bags are inspected under a security camera, they can steal whatever they'd like from any bags they handle. And, since they have access to any checked luggage, we are all potential victims!

In my opinion, whether or not TSA took my camera is irrelevant, since they won't let me lock my bags to keep people out of them.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:14 am
by hopperja
Pneumothorax wrote:... to put a lock through the Spyderhole and something inside the suitcase....
Remember, all of the TSA inspectors have lock cutters in case the baggage is locked. I doubt a lock through the hole would really deter anyone from taking it if they really wanted it.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:29 am
by markg
The knifes you see sold on eBay are normally knives that are taking during a pre-boarding search. When people forget the have them with them, or just did not know they cannot take them on the flight with them (on their person). They have the option of missing the flight or just turing it in. These are the knives you see for sale.

I believe you can request to have your bag searched with you present, when the bag is checked.

Using a heavy duty lock should work. Not on the bag, but locking the knife to the frame. Most suitcase locks are small and easy to cut. A good old fashioned Master Lock will deter a thief. The time and the attention it might bring should keep you safe.

Or you can always store the knife in a condom... They will think twice about nabbing it. ;)

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:46 pm
by mrappraisit
hopperja wrote: In my opinion, whether or not TSA took my camera is irrelevant, since they won't let me lock my bags to keep people out of them.

Actually you can lock your bags, you just have to use a TSA approved lock, like these: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... locks.shtm

I have used these while flying with knives and have not had anything stolen.

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:44 pm
by battlecreek1
mrappraisit wrote:Actually you can lock your bags, you just have to use a TSA approved lock, like these: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/ ... locks.shtm

I have used these while flying with knives and have not had anything stolen.
Wow, I never knew those existed. Thanks so much for the great info and I plan on getting one of these. At least it will keep the baggage handlers out of it.
hopperja wrote:In my opinion, whether or not TSA took my camera is irrelevant, since they won't let me lock my bags to keep people out of them.
Yea, that's how I feel too.