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Does anyone else like Spydercos because they cannot open knives with thumbstuds?

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:51 am
by cosine
Seriously, I've always had a really difficult time opening knives with thumbstuds. I don't know why, I just can't get the hang of it. The thumbhole, on the other hand? No problem!

So, besides the fact that Spydercos are just downright comfortable in the hand when in use, the fact that they have the Spyderhole instead of thumbstuds just makes me like them all the more.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:42 am
by bh49
I never had a problem to open knives with thumbstuds until I started to use Spydercos. I bought Kershaw about a year ago, open couple of times, put in my desk and sold it later, I hate thumbstuds now.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:45 am
by krazichinaman
I like them both personally. With thumb studs, its a bit easier to stick your thumb right under and "flick" it with your thumb open. With the spyderhole, its much easier to insert your thumb and ensure a solid opening. Both are great! :spyder:
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:03 pm
by Spyderwings
Although I agree that thumbstuds sometimes make it easier to flick open with your thumb (depending on the model), the Spyder Hole makes it easy to flick open with your index finger on the bottom side when you are holding the closed knife in a normal grip. Overall, I definitely prefer the hole to a stud, but I do like, thumb studs on some models, and generally don't have a problem with them.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:06 pm
by A.P.F.
I like both as well. That said, the only problem with thumb studs can come when sharpening and using the full length of the blade to cut with. At such times, a thumb stud can foul the works.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:24 pm
by Fred Sanford
For me it's always been about the hole. Everything else is nice but I love the hole. I think thumbstuds are ugly.

I like either holes.....or nail nicks.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:37 pm
by vivi
Yes.

Thumbstuds design varies so much. The thumbstud itself, the placement, the way it travels as you open, how easy you can flick it etc.

Spydercoholes are more consistent. The vary in size but not shape (Except Byrds) and are always well engineered to match the opening path of the folder. That's something I've noticed about the holes, is a lot of thought seems to go into their exact placement to ensure they're easy to use.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:40 pm
by Fred Sanford
Vivi wrote:...That's something I've noticed about the holes, is a lot of thought seems to go into their exact placement to ensure they're easy to use.
Yeah true. It seems that not a lot of people give thought to where the thumb stud goes or how far out it sticks. They should.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:54 pm
by markg
The hole and the "Emerson Disk" run neck and neck for me.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:30 pm
by The Deacon
Spyderhole is definitely the most reliable opening device I've ever used. My other problem with thumb studs, was that they mostly were on the wrong side of the blade, while the Spyderhole is hand-neutral, although not all Spyderco knives take advantage of that.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:07 pm
by rocketbomb
I share Deacon's problem, many thumbstuds are on the wrong side of the blade. Many of the blades I have handled that do have a thumbstud on the proper side of the blade have thumbstuds that are nearly buried due to the handle design and are very difficult to use. The hole works with both hands without difficulty.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:46 pm
by mrappraisit
I have a hard time with thumbstud knives, especially smaller knives. I cut my thumb while opening a Benchmade because the rotten little stud had no grip (it must be the sausage fingers :p ). I am about to buy a cheap Kershaw that I want, but that is because it is a flipper, I probably won't even use the thumbstud. I know exactly how you feel cosine.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:18 pm
by Slick
Nothing else is as consistent as a Spyder hole. Studs get in the way. I've not tried many but I am not impressed.

One exception to this rule is the Civilian. It is just about the best balanced knife I have tried but was designed for a bigger hand than mine. Still better than a thumb stud.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:26 pm
by Ben4735
I dont like thumbstuds because some knives (Kershaw Leek, chive, etc) dont give the left handed user the same room to open the thumbstud as a right hander. I found it very hard to open using the stud.

I like Spyderco's because as a lefty, I can use them just as well.

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:26 pm
by amen74
The Spydeco Hole is definitely the most effective for me. Just put your thumb out and it's right there where you need it to be. No fiddling around. Thumbstuds need extra perfect placement to be totally useful. The Spyderhole just plain works. Feels natural to use.

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:25 am
by Burchtree
A thumbstud put in the right place and done well doesn't bother me at all. On some productions blades though, they aren't smoothed out, or they stick out too much and they catch on your pants (or back of your hand when you dig in your pocket) and that is annoying.

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:09 am
by MANIXWORLD
thumbstuds can be a little in the way on most knives and tend to get caught up on your pocket insides alot. it can realy get in the way with certain cuttingchores. as far as opening a hole in the blade is just more comfortable than thumbstuds.
maybe thats why so many other brands copied it off Spyderco.(:-()

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:09 am
by Doc Pyres
Not only do I find most thumb studs uncomfortable, I also find them 'aesthetically displeasing' in most cases (although Burch, your Dao folder may be one of the exceptions I've come across recently - what a sweet little knife, thumbstuds and all! :D ).

IMHO, the Spyderhole is comfortable, functional, and strikingly good-looking all at once. And it's such a common sense design, it's almost like the paper clip - I bet there are a lot of companies out there thinking, "Geez, why didn't we think of that?" :p

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:17 am
by dalefuller
I prefer round holes because they're a much more positive opening device for me. It's easier to find them, get the knife properly set in my hand and then get the blade open.

I use some knives with thumbstuds because of the practicality of the knife. My BM Grips and mini-Grips are pretty easy to manipulate with those thumbstuds. My H&K 14210 & 14205 are harder to work with because of the placement of the thumbstud.

Oddly enough, the worst thumbstuds I've ever tried to use are on Sebenzas. I've quit carrying any of my Sebbies because they are so hard to manipulate with one hand.

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:31 pm
by SimpleIsGood229
Before Spydies, I had little difficulty with thumb studs. NOW...I'm a liability with thumb studs! The Spyderhole is vastly superior. Another plus is that the Spyderhole cannot possibly come unscrewed and fall off.