Could you survive with just a UKPK?

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Could you survive with just a UKPK?

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I may probably say "screw it" sell off all my "gravity" Spydies and pick up a UKPK. Will I be "underknifed"? Not doing any outdoor chores, just rope, boxes and packaging.
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Blasphemy. Why?
I mean, selling a collection to make some cash when it's tight is understandable. I'de at least keep 2 of my favorites. I think rope would be a ***** with a UKPK
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Could I survive with just a UKPK?
I think yes, but why? It would be sad life to survive. I want to live and enjoy my life, this is what Persians, Kopas, Caly3 and others for. :)
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Sure you could do everything with it, but why restrict yourself?
The place where you live will not be any safer if you don't own a locking folder anymore, or do you stab others on a regular basis?

To **** with stupid knife-laws, I just bought me a nice automatic while I still can.
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Sure you could.

I once pulled a two week stint with only a DKPK and a Case Scout Jr. Slipjoint.

No one handed opening for two weeks...no locking blade for two weeks...everything was sub 3".

I did fine, travelled, fished, hiked...opened boxes, envelopes, cut open packages...

A UKPK will do everything a bigger/locking Spyder will do cutting wise.

But why limit yourself?
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If you are talking about twine and thin rope, then sure. You could survive just fine with the UKPN or a Case, Lone Wolf, etc. slipjoint.
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It's often said that people's sense of history starts with the year they're born and goes forward from there. I guess I am an old dude by today's standards, but while growing up, spent many hours in shops and out of doors, using nothing but slipjoint folders for tasks. Never really got interested in lockback knives until midlife.

Could I go back? Sure. Knives cut just fine without locks. I never, ever cut myself from a closing blade until I owned a linerlock, which failed.

I could probably live without a cell phone, too. Might in fact be happer if I did.
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bh49 wrote: I want to live and enjoy my life, this is what Persians, Kopas, Caly3 and others for. :)
There is something quite profound about that statement. :)
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KaliGman wrote:If you are talking about twine and thin rope, then sure. You could survive just fine with the UKPN or a Case, Lone Wolf, etc. slipjoint.
Don't know about KaliGman, cutting performance is not in the lock but in the blade.
As long as you use the edge to do the cutting and not the spine, a lock is not important.
I do hate to go backwards because of the behavior of others though.
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Piet.S wrote:... cutting performance is not in the lock but in the blade.
You are quite correct. My problem in cutting thick rope with the UKPN would be that the short blade would require a sawing motion to cut through, and this can put "closing pressure" on the blade if you are not careful and end up torquing or twisting the blade. I would prefer a much larger bladed slipjoint for heavy/thick rope if I was using a slipjoint, or else be extra careful. I have cut myself with a slipjoint when it closed on me. I was a kid with a Boy Scout Knife and I was using the thing in woodcrafting. I was inattentive for a moment (i.e. I screwed up :D ) and got cut.
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I'll take a lock anyday, and will until I can't. It's much safer all around.

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Not me, too small, no lock and no serration. Id need the 1/2 serrated military. Perfect all around S.E.R.E. knife. John.
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Just start selling slow, see how you feel as you reduce your numbers...

I couldn't though. Glad that I don't have to.
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With the correct information and training, you can survive with anything. But I would want something along the lines of a paramilitary and a few ladybugs. The para could be used to hunt with and is actually somewhat balanced for throwing. The ladybugs would be great as workers for chopping rope and creating timber in the bush. The whole point to a survival knife, is something non corrosive, that can handle the punishment of sharpening against a rock. To me a UKPK is just too small to fill that role.
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Of course you could "survive" with just a UKPK. I prefer a knife with a lock since I have a choice. For utility and heavy duty work a knife with a lock is much safer. With all the knives Spyderco offers, why limit yourself? Take a good look at all your Spydies before selling them off. You may just end up buying them a second time.
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rlw1979777 wrote:With the correct information and training, you can survive with anything. But I would want something along the lines of a paramilitary and a few ladybugs. The para could be used to hunt with and is actually somewhat balanced for throwing. The ladybugs would be great as workers for chopping rope and creating timber in the bush. The whole point to a survival knife, is something non corrosive, that can handle the punishment of sharpening against a rock. To me a UKPK is just too small to fill that role.
Throw a para? :eek: At an animal? :eek: You would hurl your only survival knife through the woods? You better keep two!
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Or get really good at throwing it. I could go for a orange G10 Para. That would fix it, at least when you miss.
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I see! Thats why they make the orange ones. ;)
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Gboy...if I were you, I would do what feels right...collections ebb and flow over time...I've been through that with my music collection a gazillion times, if something no longer fits with my tastes, I sell/trade it and go w/something else...sometimes things get bought a second time, and that's OK too... :spyder:

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First, as it's been said many times, a survival knife is the knife you have on you when the situation arises... so, yes, you could survive with the UK Penknife.

Second, if your question is going back to that issue you had with law enforcement then how about leaving your locking :spyder: s at home where you can enjoy them and carry a UKPK inside your pocket (not clipped, but inside... seemed that was where the issue started) while away from home.

Third, if your question has something to do with something totally different, recommend you follow Agent Starling's advice.

If I'm going out into the general public where a knife might be looked at as an issue, I take my Delica 4s and leave the big blades at home. If I need a more discreet EDC, the Delica 4s stay home and the Caly3s are with me. If my Caly3s aren't PC enough, I'll leave them at home and pack my UKPK. And, if the UKPK's an issue, I'll just slip it into my pocket.
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