super heavy duty folders

[jasonp]

ok, after going through the whole strider thread, i decided to do a little bit of study on heavy duty folders, maybe get one for myself, and i finally targetted ER...

has anybody had any experience with ER, good or bad?

i am thinking of the RAO folder from them, which is a 4.75 in blade, 6mm thick, double locking heavy duty folder with N690CO

What does everyone think?

[SoCal Operator]

Ask around on BladeForums as people there seem to have more experience. From what I've read, (don't own one) they're exceedingly well built and rock solid. One of the folders has a mechanism that is supposed to make the knife essentially a fixed blade.

[jasonp]

Ask around on BladeForums as people there seem to have more experience. From what I've read, (don't own one) they're exceedingly well built and rock solid. One of the folders has a mechanism that is supposed to make the knife essentially a fixed blade.

that's probably the RAO you are talking about

[nathan310]

I got a strider pt and it's the best knife I have ever owned... Beautiful and well built. I reccomend you get a strider.

[Milu]

The Strider PT is a great knife but a baby compared to it's big brothers or the ER RAO or MPC, or even the MoD Hornet for that matter.

[Kaizen]

I think ERs are extremely tough. Here's a review of the RAO done by Noss4 at Blade Forums:

http://bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=516915

[ClockWork]

On the topic of "heavy duty" knives....

I would love to see a hard-core heavy duty large work-horse folding knife from Spyderco.
With a thick, long H1 steel blade (like 4-5 inches) , and thick beefy H1 liners, and thick contoured FRN handles. All overbuilt for abuse and innaprapriate usage.

Just an idea...

- clock

[gt_mule]

On the topic of "heavy duty" knives....

I would love to see a hard-core heavy duty large work-horse folding knife from Spyderco.
With a thick, long H1 steel blade (like 4-5 inches) , and thick beefy H1 liners, and thick contoured FRN handles. All overbuilt for abuse and innaprapriate usage.

Just an idea...

- clock

Not a folder, but the rock salt meets your requirements.

[SimpleIsGood229]

I've heard the Rick Hinderer XM-18 is a pretty heavy-duty folder.

On the topic of "heavy duty" knives....

I would love to see a hard-core heavy duty large work-horse folding knife from Spyderco.
With a thick, long H1 steel blade (like 4-5 inches) , and thick beefy H1 liners, and thick contoured FRN handles. All overbuilt for abuse and innaprapriate usage.

The only problem is that H-1 blade's thickness limit, according to Sal, is 3mm.

[SoCal Operator]

Does it have to be a folder? I hate to be a PITA, but there's a certain point where fixed blades are more suited to the task.

[jasonp]

Does it have to be a folder? I hate to be a PITA, but there's a certain point where fixed blades are more suited to the task.

well, in my case it's more like a folder fever

[ClockWork]

well, in my case it's more like a folder fever

Yeah same here...

I am a big fan of folders. I have a couple fixed blades, But I find a folder much more to my liking and much more practical and convenient.

I have a Gerber LMF II, which is a massively over built monstrosity. I find it difficult and cumbersome to use; short of hacking through a tree or maybe cutting open a car's roof its too big to employ in most situations.
The other fixed blades are Neckers.

that and Folders are just easier to carry...


And I dont know about you guys. But I find 400 dollars WAY too much to spend on any knife.
Especially a Manuel opening FRAME LOCK knife... Just because something cost more; Doesn't mean its that much proportionately better. Its OK to make something Valuable, Instead of just Overpriced. :eek:


-Clock

:spyder: :) :spyder: :) :spyder: :spyder: :)

[SoCal Operator]

well, in my case it's more like a folder fever

I'm with you there. Fixed blades are great, but folders have a certain gadget factor to them. It's much easier to play around with a good folder.

[JBE]

Have you checked out the Zero Tolerance (ZT) line of folders by Kershaw?

[jasonp]

Have you checked out the Zero Tolerance (ZT) line of folders by Kershaw?

i've got myself a 0301 and a 0302 already
the 0300 series are the best folders by ZT imo

[cdf]

I like the ZT 200 better than the 301-302 . Im not a fan of assisted openers . Keep it KISS for me , gadgets have a habit of letting you down at the worst possible times !

Chris

[SoCal Operator]

If you have some ZTs, then an Extrema Ratio is a good option for a super heavy duity folder. Strider should also be on the list as well as Emerson. Also, keep your eyes open for a Hinderer folder. They're very difficult to come by, but are highly praised.

[jasonp]

I like the ZT 200 better than the 301-302 . Im not a fan of assisted openers . Keep it KISS for me , gadgets have a habit of letting you down at the worst possible times !

Chris

well, to a certain extent, i like ZT200 over 300s
the thumb stud is a critical weakness of the 300s, since if the thumb stud fails(which is common, it was basically punched in and glued and can be taken out easily), the knife will become useless. In addition, the thumb stud of the 300s are too close to the handle when closed, very difficult to use.

however, the 300/301/302 has a stronger blade, better profile and an exceptional handle(G10+Ti), which i simply can't resist

as for the speedsafe, i'm not too worried, since afaik, it can be removed without troubles

[HoB]

The following is purely my own humble opinion and I don't want to start a flame war:

To compare any frame lock, especially the Strider that I have seen, against a knife like the RAO seems to me like a bad joke. My conservative estimate is that the lock on the RAO (without the addtional pin) is easily four times as strong as those framelocks. And to have an overbuild knife with an underbuild lock doesn't make much sense to me. Considering the price on those knives the RAO seems like a steal, too.

[jasonp]

The following is purely my own humble opinion and I don't want to start a flame war:

To compare any frame lock, especially the Strider that I have seen, against a knife like the RAO seems to me like a bad joke. My conservative estimate is that the lock on the RAO (without the addtional pin) is easily four times as strong as those framelocks. And to have an overbuild knife with an underbuild lock doesn't make much sense to me. Considering the price on those knives the RAO seems like a steal, too.

that's exactly what i had in mind, and that's the reason why i did pick RAO