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The Spyderco Urban Hype Thread

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People carry knives in every environment on earth. No matter the landscape--gritty sand, thick foliage, hewn stone--we keep sharp tools by our sides. But as we grow and progress as a society, a different, manmade landscape threatens our ability to carry our most reliable tool. The heat rising off asphalt, the enveloping humidity of sound, the lined ascent of buildings--this is the urban landscape, and it challenges us like nothing before.

Spyderco adapted to this environment by designing the Urban. The 2.5” blade of laser cut VG-10 steel doesn’t lock to remain legal in cities across the globe. So that the people you meet and work with every day can see the Urban as a non-threatening tool, Spyderco outfitted the handle with bright blaze-orange G10. A wire clip completes the package, keeping the slim, light Urban deep in pocket until needed.

To help the Urban blend with every person’s unique tastes and cutting needs, Spyderco plans to offer several styles of interchangeable blade shapes and handle scales.


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Colin's custom Urban. Image by ColinKC on the British Blades forum

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Urban prototypes from the IWA show. Images by Wouter

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Newest release date estimate
Originally Posted by sal

We're told that the Urban will be available in October. I would guess that it means November for shipment.

Sorry for the delay on this item. Some parts are made in the USA and shipped to Seki.

sal
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Originally Posted by sal

We're expecting to finish the prodcution samples later this month. We'll show them at the SHOT & IWA shows and the UK, A'dam & Solingen meets. I imagine we'll take a few pics along the way.

The Urban is a shortened UKPK. 2.5" blade length clip carry, non locking folder. VG-10 blade steel. 4 blade options: Leaf, warncliffe, lambsfoot (plain & serrated) and a "safety" blade. All Mix & match.

Handles will be available in G-10 (foliage green & safety orange), FRN and bolstered versions with more exotic scales (Walnut jigged bone, etc).

Not all of the options will be available at once, we'll add as we can.
This should solve the most of the complaints (other than "it's fugly") on the UK.

sal


Hi Jag,

The "plan" with the Urban is mix & match for anyone to be able to do. We've learned quite a bit about "Slipits" in the past few years and we believe it is do-able. Perhaps difficult, but do-able. It wouldn't be the first time we did something new or difficult.

Hi Joe,

The 2" version is more like the dragonfly.

sal
Hi Kris,

May might be "really" tight, but we'll try.

sal
...The "Urban" has 4 blade shapes: leaf, warnie, lambsfoot and "safety" (rounded point). The future scales will be: bolsters & natural materials, and the FRN version, for which the texture is a keyboard with any color possible.

The lamsfoot and safety blades are thinner with a hump over the hole only.

According to forum members who've seen, pet, and possibly fed an Urban in the wild
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde

The Urban will be more of a 'workhorse' in my carry rotation than the previous models. It's very light and highly 'pocketable', it's thin profile means that it's comfy to carry. At least for the minute or so it spent in my pocket. This one should be a nice travel knife.

I will get a leaf shape Urban for sure. I've recently come into the possession of the new UKPKs and they do seem a bit more refined to me, compared to the earlier black model. The action is much smoother, there's a hint more belly in the blade and the overall fit and finish is really nice. The Urban prototypes were just as smooth as their bigger brothers. Moreover, the handle even seems a bit more comfy because its shorter. I always have a bit of handle 'left' when holding the UKPK and using the choil. This 'extra' handle is gone with the shorter handle of the Urban, I liked it a lot.
Originally Posted by Jurphaas

Yes, the Urbans are great little powerhouses. In fact most people who held and inspected them at the mini-meets and at the IWA, commented very possitively about them.

One of the Leeds visitors to the UK mini-meet referred to them as "Slippits". This name struck a chord with Sal and he - with the approval of the initiator of the name - is calling all slipjoints by spyderco now "Slippits".

" Slippits" are the pocket knives of the future according to Spyderco. In 10-15 years from now, the pocket knife as we know it today will have changed quitte a bit due to more and more restrictive ledgislation thru out the world.

So, we better get used to a schrinking of our beloved pocket knive and forget about the locking features all to- gether.

Pocket knives will become "Slippits" and "Slippits" will still remain as HighTech as posible with super steels and the best handle materials available. Although many may not see it yet, the future looks bright!

Cheers, Jurphaas
On the spring mechanism of "slipits"
Originally Posted by Senate

despite the fact that they share the same name, the lock on the SAK and the UKPK/Urban are very different. on a SAK the spring is really stiff and exert a tension on the blade during 90-95% of the opening, which is why they're so prone to close on your fingers.

on the contrary the urban/UKPK have a two steps opening: first step from closed to half opened position is like a SAK, the spring is pushed back by the increasing size of the tang of the blade and as a reaction puts tension on the blade to close it. once arrived at half opened position there's small depression on the tang of the blade where the spring rest in the same position as if the knife was closed, no tension here. the knife wouldn't move from this position if left alone, i believe a SAK would eventually close itself overtime if left in the same position.
then you have the second step from half-opened to fully opened, which seems to have a constant and small/weak action on the spring therefore not a lot of tension on the blade up to the final position.

breaking the opening in 2 steps has given the slipjoint a great security, a SAK just want to bite your fingers as soon as it starts to close, a UKPK won't close itself before you passed half opened position, and there's a bump to pass so that definitely requires human interaction.
The insides of the "slippit" mechanism. Images by Murdoc (see post #43 for larger images)

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So, let's hear it. Who else is as excited for the Urban as I am? I'm a big wharnie fan, and the Urban's size, appearance, and apparent pocketability match perfectly with the full-flat wharncliffe blade.

I'm also excited about the idea of swappable handles and blades. I think this will be a big step toward other people seeing knives as tools. I also think that most people like things that are customized to their personal style.

But I'm most excited about the Urban because the creation of the model is just another example of how forward thinking Spyderco is as a company. A lot of people see knives as intimidating weapons, and Spyderco knows this. There are laws in place now that restrict the carry of knives, and I don't see these laws loosening any time soon unless knives are accepted as tools. Making the every day carry pocketknife as non-threatening as possible, while still packing in functional design features, is really an amazing accomplishment.

What do you think?

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I am extremely excited for the Urban. It's exactly what I want in an EDC:

-2.5" blade, (my two favs are wharnie and leaf!!!)
-Orange G10 (friendly, hard to lose, and cool)
-Wire clip (works great, rides low)


I am excited to try a slip joint too!!!

This is a smart move by Spyderco and is in no way selling out. They have paid careful attention to the public and have delivered a product that satisfies enthusiasts while meeting social graces.

Sign me up for two!
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-Orange G10 (friendly, hard to lose, and cool)
I think the Urban is a knife that could actually become "cool" with a portion of the public. I think a lot of people desire iPods for the iPod image, but iPods have become so popular because of their functionality underneath that image.

The Urban has the functionality part in the bag, and I think its "image" will make it more acceptable and even cool to more people than just knife enthusiasts.
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eagerly anticipated Urban

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great thread VultureParade ... I'm equally excited about the Urban....it seems like the perfect size for suburban/city carry as even the UKPK's bladesize can sometimes "raise an eyebrow" if used in office settings; so often times i've felt that a Lava/Navigator2/Dragonfly/Robin sized knife (or smaller :rolleyes: )seems to be the ideal (maximum) size for my work setting.
As i'm pretty confident in the "notch joint" of the UKPK (which provides plenty of resistance to accidental closure) the Urban is a "must get" for me and the wharnie version looks extra tasty ;) :cool:
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Got to admit, I'm intrigued by the wharnclife version.
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Halfneck wrote:Got to admit, I'm intrigued by the wharnclife version.
Not to be a copycat but +1
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Since technically speaking I'm not allowed to carry a locking blade here, I have never waited for a new knife as much as I'm waiting for the Urban.

My money is already set aside, the rest is up to Sal ;)
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By the way, I've always wanted a large Spin...

This is it!!!!!
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I can't wait for the Urban. I have an Orange UKPK and the Urban seems like a perfect match. I assume it is a full flat grind?
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Originally Posted by sal

We're expecting to finish the prodcution samples later this month. We'll show them at the SHOT & IWA shows and the UK, A'dam & Solingen meets. I imagine we'll take a few pics along the way.

The Urban is a shortened UKPK. 2.5" blade length clip carry, non locking folder. VG-10 blade steel. 4 blade options: Leaf, warncliffe, lambsfoot (plain & serrated) and a "safety" blade. All Mix & match.

Handles will be available in G-10 (foliage green & safety orange), FRN and bolstered versions with more exotic scales (Walnut jigged bone, etc).

Not all of the options will be available at once, we'll add as we can.
This should solve the most of the complaints (other than "it's fugly") on the UK.

sal
Since it is a mix and match knife, it would be cool if it had a drop-in lock system for those who wanted a lock. That would be the perfect transition piece considering Spyderco expects all knife laws to require no locks in 15 or so years.
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Wharncliffe for me please... whew... :)
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Anyone know the handle length on this one? Thanks.

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I assume it is a full flat grind?
This is one of the largest pros about the model for me. I'm not that big of a hollow grind fan; I find that a flat ground blade slices a lot better.

I think the Urban will be the first utility geared flat ground wharnie folder in the Spyderco lineup. The only other flat ground wharnies I can think of are the yojimbo (more of a MBC knife) and the swick (a small fixed blade), so the wharnie Urban will definitely fill a gap in the Spyderco line.

edit* I forgot the Spin. While full flat and a wharnie, the small size, stainless handle, and liner lock never did it for me. But it's probably an incredible slicer.
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i'm having a difficult time deciding... scrape up the change to buy an orange UKPK now... or wait for an urban?????
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It's a sweet pair of folders.
Everything look great.
But I would have rather they came with fixed blade version and neon yellow handles with an etched "hardhat" graphic on the main blade to make it more in line with workmen or construction types.
This is one market that Spyderco can look into.
Real men need real workknives for a change.
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Once again this company is ahead of the curve. I plan on getting one, probably wharnie but I'll take my time deciding as I'm in a fairly knife tolerant area.

It will be interesting seeing which company or designer takes credit for this idea....when they figure out what it's for and realize not only is it a great idea but a possible earner with enough publicity and spin.

I'd offer to start a lottery but that's notn in the best interests of this website and the footsteps left by it would draw trolls. That's easy to forsee. Joe
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I can't wait for the Urban !!!
Locking knives give you problems with the law here in the UK, as Sal has taken the trouble to find out. Hence the UKPK.
Even though the UKPK was designed solely to fit in with UK laws, it can still look a bit scary to some in a non knife environment, so now Sal is giving us a smaller friendlier looking version.
I just hope Spyderco get the reward of cornering the market in quality modern non locking knives, which is what they deserve for being the first to develop them.
This has to be the way forward for knife manufacturers, laws are only going to get tighter, just look at the posts about New York & gravity knives, some states/cities have shorter and shorter maximum blade lengths, and only Spyderco as far as I can tell are developing new knives to allow us to carry on carrying.
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Great thread, I'm pretty excited about the new Urban as well. Initially I'll get a leaf shape blade, but I know myself well enough that I'm easily tempted to get other variations. :D

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clovisc wrote:i'm having a difficult time deciding... scrape up the change to buy an orange UKPK now... or wait for an urban?????
Obviously, the answer is both! :p :D


The only thing that doesn't really appeal to me with the Urban is the Foliage Green and Safety Orange colors. I personally like colors that are a little more subtle, and meld better to my clothing. I realize that Black is "tactical", and not very NKP friendly; but I would very much like to see some Grey, or maybe some Denim Blue.

Also, I very much hope that the Urban Project will have an option to buy handles (and maybe even blades...) separately. I think it would be very cool if you would be able to get the Urban you want, and then buy a few different colors of handle that you could swap out; rather than having to buy several different knives to get that interchangeability.

Just my $0.02 :)
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I am VERY eager and impatient to get my hands on the wharncliffe Urban. Most anticipated knife I've ever waited for. A word of caution: if the Urban is to Spyderco what the iPod is to Apple, Sal and co. better get ready... considering how many folks have been sucked in to the Apple addiction as a result of owning an iPod. And we all here know how quickly Spyderco addiction presents in those bit just once by the Spyder...
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