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Who has a broken tip?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:09 pm
by Big footed nick
Who all here has a Spydie with a broken tip? what spyders do you consider to have a breakable tip under normal use ?
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:18 pm
by araneae
No broken tips here. I did drop a Cara Cara into a tile floor and deform the very tip, but it was nothing the Lansky and Sharpmaker couldn't take care of.
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:53 pm
by Vincent
As with any tool with a point edge, if you use it the fine tips will break off. Almost all my knives have no more fine tips, they still have a tip just maybe 2 mm or so into the tip is gone, I can still stab, just that point is fragile and well on most tools, such as screw drivers, wrenches and stuff, if their are fine points they will break even under normal use.
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:11 pm
by yablanowitz
I have broken many tips, at least the portion where the edge bevel comes to a point. In fact, I have trashed the tip on my beater Dodo seven or eight times (I've lost track). But I can't help you with that "under normal use" bit, as my use is generally not considered to be normal.
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:30 pm
by rolyat1978
The tip of my harpy is chipped(just barely, but enough to piss me off) b/c I dropped it accidentally. It was my most used edc. My yojimbo and chinook II are purely sd and not utility carries...
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:11 am
by The Mastiff
Break under normal use? None of them ever have for me, and I can say I'm pretty sure none ever will. Prying, or using as a screwdriver isn't normal use and that's about the only way it's going to happen. Tips don't break cutting or slicing or using normally.
I've been using spydercos since around 92 0r 93, and have over a hundred and none of them are especially dainty or prone to breakage if used properly. Joe
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:52 am
by malice4you
http://www.malice4you.com/images/spyderco13_6.jpg - check out the harpy
I got that harpy used like that. I was just messing with it with the sharpmaker, finishing up details to make it look a tad more aggressive and 'finished' - no final photos yet, but this is it after I've worked on it a bit:
http://www.malice4you.com/images/tasman_harpy.jpg
I've been wetsanding the handle and blade to try and get it looking more presentable.
http://www.malice4you.com/images/civilian.jpg
I got my civilian new, but I did use it for some utility work when I was younger and dumber. Trust me, the photo makes it look a lot worse than it actually is. I have yet to send it to spyderco to see what they can do to it for me. I have stopped using this knife.
I also have another used delica with a broken tip coming my way - I won it on ebay for next to nothing. All the knives I own that have major damage were used before I got them, and I got them with expectations to use them hard (so I don't screw up my good knives if I don't have to)
I could imagine that a Delica3 tip could break if used in a stupid manner/dropped when open, but under normal use, I'd imagine that would be difficult. Same for the Police. Seeing what happened to the harpy, I would imagine that the Tasman could see the same fate if it were dropped. If I need to loan out a knife, I'll make sure it's one of the used knives that's already messed up....
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:31 am
by carrot
I broke the very tip of my Para-Military and Military during what I would consider "normal use" but it is very minimal and should sharpen out fairly quickly as very little came off. Same on my Yojimbo.
The "beak" of my SE Cricket broke off by a good 1mm or slightly more when it went into the laundry still clipped IWB to my jeans.
Nothing else, not even my Caly3 has lost its tip.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:54 am
by bladese97
:spyder: :spyder: :cool: :spyder: :spyder: Nope....No broken tips here either. :)
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:44 pm
by yablanowitz
The Mastiff wrote:Break under normal use? None of them ever have for me, and I can say I'm pretty sure none ever will. Prying, or using as a screwdriver isn't normal use and that's about the only way it's going to happen. Tips don't break cutting or slicing or using normally.
I've been using spydercos since around 92 0r 93, and have over a hundred and none of them are especially dainty or prone to breakage if used properly. Joe
That depends on what you call normal.

Since normal for me includes cutting drywall in a building with steel studs, cutting carpet laid on a concrete floor, and cutting old caulking off the edge of ceramic tiles glued to a concrete block wall, sometimes the tip goes bye-bye without prying or twisting. I just need a blade steel hard and tough enough to cut quartz and I'll have it made :D
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:51 pm
by The Deacon
Have an Almite Worker with perhaps 1/32" broken off the tip. It was that way when I bought it. Could be ground out, but have never bothered.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:18 pm
by Michael Cook
:spyder: My wife's dropped both her yojis taking off the teeny tiny final beval tips. I took 'em to work and stabbed roast beefs with them and they penetrate fine so we've not bothered sending 'em in for regrinding. I would if they were mine but she's a bit more performance oriented than I am. To her if they'll work on a bad guy that's all she cares about. :spyder:
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:36 pm
by ghostrider
yablanowitz wrote:That depends on what you call normal.

Since normal for me includes cutting drywall in a building with steel studs, cutting carpet laid on a concrete floor, and cutting old caulking off the edge of ceramic tiles glued to a concrete block wall, sometimes the tip goes bye-bye without prying or twisting. I just need a blade steel hard and tough enough to cut quartz and I'll have it made :D
That's like someone saying that they "normally" use their knife for prying :D . Your basically saying that you used the knife to cut concrete, steel studs, and ceramic tiles. I think that can easily be called abuse. However, it probably is normal knife use in that I'd imagine that that's what a majority of knife owners use thier knives for.
I remember when I bought my Old Timer Trapper, the instructions said to never stab a hard surface (wood was specifically mentioned), or use the knife to pry with, or as a screwdriver. Such practice were consider outside the normal uses of a knife and would void the warranty. Somewhere along the line that Trapper developed a bent tip :o .
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:18 pm
by yablanowitz
ghostrider wrote:That's like someone saying that they "normally" use their knife for prying :D . Your basically saying that you used the knife to cut concrete, steel studs, and ceramic tiles. I think that can easily be called abuse. However, it probably is normal knife use in that I'd imagine that that's what a majority of knife owners use thier knives for.
I remember when I bought my Old Timer Trapper, the instructions said to never stab a hard surface (wood was specifically mentioned), or use the knife to pry with, or as a screwdriver. Such practice were consider outside the normal uses of a knife and would void the warranty. Somewhere along the line that Trapper developed a bent tip :o .
That's why in my first post I said my use wasn't considered normal by most people. :D
They are tools, made for cutting things. Sometimes when I am cutting things, other things get in the way. That's life. I don't whine about it, I just go on using the tool.
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:10 pm
by The Mastiff
Yablanowitz, I have a carpet cutter and a box of 250 special carpet cutting disposable razor blades left behind by a professional carpet installation team that does that for a living. It's a very handy cutter and would be perfect for a lot of your jobs. If I didn't use it I'd send it to you. Those disposable, big honking razor blades would save you a lot of wear and tear on your knives. I like sharpening too, but these would keep you from wearing out your good knives. Joe
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:30 am
by yablanowitz
I have carpet knives and utility knives. I used to use them a lot more than I do now. I haven't found one that came out of the package sharp enough to suit me, and I haven't seen one yet that held an edge worth squat. Plus I find all of their ilk too bulky to carry around for the amount of edge they deliver. I know I should use a disposable blade for rough work that will ruin an edge quickly, but a good knife will make it through a job that would have me changing blades on a utility knife several times. Been there, done that, don't have the extra time at work.
Broken Tip
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:18 am
by KaliGman
I broke the tip on my 440V plain edge Gunting. I was being a bit hard on it at the time :rolleyes: . I was practicing with my off hand--when you draw the knife in reverse grip, flip it to forward grip, the tip ends up going beyond your target and being thrust into---enough of that--my wife has enough ammunition without me documenting my stupidity here. Suffice it to say that the knife was not at fault--the Gunting is a really tough knife. I reground the tip a bit and, after a couple of years, finally decided that, though it worked OK, it sure didn't look as good as it used to and the whole knife was in need of a good resharpening, so I sent it in to Spyderco. I got it back this week and it is riding in my right pocket. It looks great.
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:37 am
by ghostrider
yablanowitz wrote:That's why in my first post I said my use wasn't considered normal by most people. :D
They are tools, made for cutting things. Sometimes when I am cutting things, other things get in the way. That's life. I don't whine about it, I just go on using the tool.
He he. The wisdom of experience. :D
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:06 am
by MAT888
all of mine due to my own very hard use policy :D
WARNINS" MAT888 is not a collector but a (ab).user of spydies.
No worry they all reprofile fine on DMT's
they top off somewhat harder then other inferior brands :D .
Not recommanded to let a knivetip hit metal stone or bones :eek:
Just some thoughts. Don't want to start a row.
:cool:
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:37 pm
by Vincent
The Mastiff wrote:Break under normal use? None of them ever have for me, and I can say I'm pretty sure none ever will. Prying, or using as a screwdriver isn't normal use and that's about the only way it's going to happen. Tips don't break cutting or slicing or using normally.
I've been using spydercos since around 92 0r 93, and have over a hundred and none of them are especially dainty or prone to breakage if used properly. Joe
Tip my lil temp broke from cutting down a cardboard box. Tip of MY Strider SNG broke from cuttong some rope.
If you dont consider than normal use, I dont know what ya do. Maybe opening envelopes.