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Traveling by Air with a Knife

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:34 am
by CWO
When you travel by air - how do you make sure you knife will be in your luggae at the other end? Since so much luggage is Xrayed and the fact that there is a knife(s) in your checked luggage isn't a secret - what do you do to lessen the chances that your knives might be stolen from your luggage?

Thanks,
CWO

train hard and stay safe!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:46 am
by Michael Cook
:spyder: I keep a delica in my shaving kit in my checked luggage. :spyder:

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:59 am
by rycen
When I travel I take a chain and wrap it around the frame of the suitcase.The I run the chain through the opening hole then padlock the ends.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:18 am
by The CoPilot
A little trick I've learned is to put the knife way inside a pair of socks that are rolled up together and then put the socks in my checked bag so they are "end up" when it goes through the X-ray (in other words, the knife is vertical when the bag is laying flat). It may show up as metal on the x-ray, but it won't look have a knife-like profile.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:33 am
by tonydahose
some also zip tie the knife, through the spyder hole and around the handle.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:24 am
by CWO
tonydahose wrote:some also zip tie the knife, through the spyder hole and around the handle.

Interesting idea... thanks!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:51 am
by Mr Blonde
One tip I got from the Spydercrew when transporting knives or anything else. Is to include an inventory list in your suitcase, and to indicate that it's a copy. I'm nerdy enough to make a packing list anyways, so it was easy to do for me. Whenever someone opens my suitcase they will immediately see my detailed inventory list, with check marks from my pen, and that I have copies. It lets them know that I know when something was stolen. It seems to have been sufficient deterrent over the past years.

I also think it helps that my regular travel knives are hideously yellow! :D

Wouter

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:14 am
by yablanowitz
I have a far simpler solution: I don't travel by air. ;)

It's been working for me for fifteen years :D

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:19 am
by tonydahose
CWO wrote:Interesting idea... thanks!
you can also zip tie to part of your suitcase if there are any hooks or inside zippers.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:50 am
by Gollum
I just got back from a trip.
I checked a bag with a SAK and a Salt 1.
At my departure point the xray is behind the counter so I waited for them to xray it before leaving since I locked it. (otherwise they break the lock)
Sure enough they wanted my key to search it (behind a barrier without me), so I told them I wanted to be present while they searched which didn't make them happy.
When they got to the inside side pocket the knives were in they spent all of about 2 seconds peaking in the pocket they were in, then zipped it shut.
What got their attention was my salt crystal deodorant and a small jar of shaving cream. (Who Knew :eek: ).
On my trip back the xray machine was downstairs so I had to make a decision to leave it unlocked or lock it and if they wanted to search, break the lock.
I left it unlocked and hoped for the best which worked out, my knives made it and no search (they leave a little slip notifying you if it was searched).
No easy solution: You want to lock it so they won't steal them, but you may end up with a broken lock, and if you don't lock it you make it easier for them to steal your stuff, that's why I took my Salt 1 and $11 WallyWorld closeout Super Tinker, keep any potential loss to a minimum.
I like Yab's solution!
Hope this helps.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:05 pm
by MAT888
In some suitcases you can reach the frame hidden below the covering. Get a zippy around it and through the spyderhole.

Normally these ' cargothugs ' mostly hired for handling our suitcases only have the change to undo our suitcases from our goods in the plane itself as the conveyor system is monitored by camera's nowadays.

So they only have a short time for searching our goods and pick the stuff they can quickly hide. A zip tied item takes to much time for them to retreive especially when they don't carry a knive or nippers....

I also like mr. Blonde's idea allthough normally i'm not that efficient when travelling. :cool:
AND THESE YELLOWS AREN'T UGLY!!!!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:28 pm
by enyong112
NativeAmerican wrote:A little trick I've learned is to put the knife way inside a pair of socks that are rolled up together and then put the socks in my checked bag so they are "end up" when it goes through the X-ray (in other words, the knife is vertical when the bag is laying flat). It may show up as metal on the x-ray, but it won't look have a knife-like profile.
I'll try that... cause what i do i put the knife inside my toiletry bag together w/ nail clippers, and they still find it... covering it up cloth would lessen the profile of the knife? sorry i dont know a lot about xrays... :D

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:39 pm
by Lostification
I had my Tom Mayo knife stolen from the Raleigh airport in North Carolina. Of course I filed all the paper work and such, it was gone. Somebody got himself a nice knife. What I'm gonna do now is gift wrap my para-military in the original box and write "Happy Birthday Son" on it. :D Haha! And if they steal that, then... Well... I just gift wrapped it for them, lol!

If it's even possible, I don't put it in my luggage, I mail it advance to wherever I'm going and insure it. Only problem is, this time I don't have anyone to mail it to in AZ. I suppose I could mail it to the motor home rental company, haha! That or gift wrap it.

btw, you guys know all the TSA has to do is cut the zip tie to steal the knife right? lol

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:43 pm
by tonydahose
or better yet leave home without one, when you land make a beeline for the nearest spyderco dealer, buy one (write it off as a business expense ;) ) then on your last day there on the way to the airport drop it off in the mail back to your house. :D you will be delighted to open up the "new knife". it's almost like getting a 2 for 1 deal.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:49 pm
by Lostification
Man, I wish we could insure our luggage, lol! :p

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 12:52 pm
by MAT888
Yeah Tonydahose,
Fun of travelling is googling in advance for decent retailers. No hastle with customs and the joy of coming home and expecting new stuff in the mail... Which I could write anything of as bussiness expence... hahaha....
LOL

"End-Up"

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:11 pm
by twca
I second the advice on orienting the knife "end-up" so the profile does not show the blade from the flat/wide perspective. This is how I now travel with folders (after verifying they are legal in my destination AND transfer countries!).

My old method was to simply toss a Dragonfly or Ladybug (air knives par excellence) into the coin bin with the rest of my stuff -- "back then", nobody even noticed them 90% of the time, and most never questioned them when they did (with one or two exceptions, easily explained away, didn't lose them).

Best policy is honesty when you're not checking them, but if checked, just use common sense to not announce their presence.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:14 pm
by The General
This end up thing is nonsense! I know for a fact that modern xray machines are capable of multiple angles and this simply will not fool any machine.

Then there is the fact the people who steal the knives are usually baggage handlers who NEVER see the xray image at any point and you have a list of advice that is Snoopes worthy! :p

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:24 pm
by Tank
My luggage has a liner so I unzip it and just us a velcro strap to the frame then zip the liner back up and pack. As said they don't have time to completely unpack your back and take your luggage apart. Unless maybe the spotted wires attached to a battery or something. :D

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:14 pm
by wec12
Well... Here is my story. Last December I went TX and it was around Christmas time. I put my Tasman Salt back in its original box and wrapped with "Christmas Wrapping Paper"... That's not it... On the box, I wrote "Dear Dad, Merry Christmas and be safe out there!" Then, my Tasman Salt was safe and sound :p .