Hello all,
I have been putting some money aside for my next Spyderco purchase. I was going to go ahead and buy the Howard Viele next, but I have postponed that purchase.
I will be taking on martial arts again in the not-so-distant future, and I am considering learning something different. I have training in TKD and Hapkido, as well as a father who taught me various techniques as a child (he is a Judo and Aikido instructor in Mexico).
I started reading some posts regarding the Gunting, but most of them are from last year. I'd like to know from those who own this knife and the videos, how do you like the knife and the presentation in the videos? How has your overall experience with this knife been since you purchased and started using it? How has it complimented your experience and knowledge of other martial arts?
Thanks!
Kahz
"Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork." -R.A.H.
Wise (wo)men change their minds... Gunting.
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sam the man..
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Samo, Kewl! I am jealous! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
I read there are at least three videos by him, and I am currently doing a search to find the best place to purchase them. I may start by buying them before I actually buy the blade, so I can get the "brain work" done first using a mock weapon to practice (although that will be hard, I know, but ingenuity can also bring "ingeniousness"<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Also, I am planning to just go ahead and get the "real" blade instead of the trainer.
Kahz
"Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork." -R.A.H.
I read there are at least three videos by him, and I am currently doing a search to find the best place to purchase them. I may start by buying them before I actually buy the blade, so I can get the "brain work" done first using a mock weapon to practice (although that will be hard, I know, but ingenuity can also bring "ingeniousness"<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Also, I am planning to just go ahead and get the "real" blade instead of the trainer.
Kahz
"Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork." -R.A.H.
Hi, Kahz--
The Gunting is a great knife, I'm glad you've decided to get one.
I humbly submit that it'd be a good idea to reconsider getting a trainer--the knife is excellent at the things other knives do (thrust, slash, rake, butt, etc.) but its design allows much more. In order to take advantage of the extra potential, however, you're gonna have to practice. And practice requires a trainer--not only is the blade sharp (of course), but the 'horns' are pretty nasty on your training partner as well (they ain't exactly comfy even on the drone!). Even practicing kinetic openings on your own hand is risky w/the live blade (BTW: never, never, never try to kinetically open the knife on your leg!)
Practicing w/the trainer also allows one to appreciate not only the 'martial' but also the 'art' of the Gunting.
Let us know how your training goes,
Vince
Flow not gently
The Gunting is a great knife, I'm glad you've decided to get one.
I humbly submit that it'd be a good idea to reconsider getting a trainer--the knife is excellent at the things other knives do (thrust, slash, rake, butt, etc.) but its design allows much more. In order to take advantage of the extra potential, however, you're gonna have to practice. And practice requires a trainer--not only is the blade sharp (of course), but the 'horns' are pretty nasty on your training partner as well (they ain't exactly comfy even on the drone!). Even practicing kinetic openings on your own hand is risky w/the live blade (BTW: never, never, never try to kinetically open the knife on your leg!)
Practicing w/the trainer also allows one to appreciate not only the 'martial' but also the 'art' of the Gunting.
Let us know how your training goes,
Vince
Flow not gently
Mr. V,
Thanks for the suggestion, I will _definitely_ consider it coming from someone who knows what he's talking about. My knife fund will grow. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
No matter how good one feels about handling tools or weapons, "even the best hunter gets killed by the lion", right? I will not be overconfident. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
I may be ordering the first part of my Gunting training by December, so you will hear about my experiences by next year.
Thanks!
Kahz
"Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork." -R.A.H.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will _definitely_ consider it coming from someone who knows what he's talking about. My knife fund will grow. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
No matter how good one feels about handling tools or weapons, "even the best hunter gets killed by the lion", right? I will not be overconfident. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
I may be ordering the first part of my Gunting training by December, so you will hear about my experiences by next year.
Thanks!
Kahz
"Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork." -R.A.H.
Hi Kahz,
I wanted to wish you all the best in your endeavor. I am sure you will succeed.
Although I have no experience with the Gunting, I can share this from a previous training experience.
Being a "typical" guy, I thought it would be cool to begin my nunchaku training class with my heavy, 14" hardwood nunchakus that I had just received in the mail. I was not unfamiliar with handling nunchakus and had some experience with my older, lighter, octagons.
Needless to say, I very quickly and painfully learned the benefits of training and practicing with the appropriate equipment. I hobbled away with a number of bumps and "bruises" but I would take those any day over a good slash from a Gunting. Well...maybe.. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Best wishes in your quest for wisdom and balance.
Larry
Hope for the best. Be prepared for the worst. You'll never be disappointed.
I wanted to wish you all the best in your endeavor. I am sure you will succeed.
Although I have no experience with the Gunting, I can share this from a previous training experience.
Being a "typical" guy, I thought it would be cool to begin my nunchaku training class with my heavy, 14" hardwood nunchakus that I had just received in the mail. I was not unfamiliar with handling nunchakus and had some experience with my older, lighter, octagons.
Needless to say, I very quickly and painfully learned the benefits of training and practicing with the appropriate equipment. I hobbled away with a number of bumps and "bruises" but I would take those any day over a good slash from a Gunting. Well...maybe.. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Best wishes in your quest for wisdom and balance.
Larry
Hope for the best. Be prepared for the worst. You'll never be disappointed.
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G'day Kahz,
You might want to post this query on the MBC Forum. A lot of very knowledgeable martial arts people drop by there. However I would second Vince's suggestion to start with the drone. It makes a very useful weapon in it's own right and I've read of several people (Bram included) using it for EDC. Once you have the skills you can move up to the live blade. There is also a set of open and closed trainers available from Edges2. I'll email you the URL, it mucks up the page width here.
Clay
Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.
Edited by - Clay Kesting on 11/12/2001 12:21:19 PM
You might want to post this query on the MBC Forum. A lot of very knowledgeable martial arts people drop by there. However I would second Vince's suggestion to start with the drone. It makes a very useful weapon in it's own right and I've read of several people (Bram included) using it for EDC. Once you have the skills you can move up to the live blade. There is also a set of open and closed trainers available from Edges2. I'll email you the URL, it mucks up the page width here.
Clay
Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.
Edited by - Clay Kesting on 11/12/2001 12:21:19 PM
Lsaulog,
Thanks for your reply. I will share my experiences with this art once I have had the honor of actually practicing it.
Clay,
I will expect your e-mail. Thanks for the suggestion. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Kahz
"Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork." -R.A.H.
Thanks for your reply. I will share my experiences with this art once I have had the honor of actually practicing it.
Clay,
I will expect your e-mail. Thanks for the suggestion. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Kahz
"Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork." -R.A.H.
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Yes please get a trainer first. I had to be bitten by the Gunting before I finally understood that you don't play with it at all. And the cut was from kinetically opening the knife with my hand. Plus the drone is a lot more fun to use because you aren’t afraid of being cut.
Some laws permit, what honor dose not.
Some laws permit, what honor dose not.
Thorin,
OUCH! I hope that cut wasn't serious. Well, you guys convinced me for sure. I will be getting the trainer first, then forming another fund for the live one. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
I love it when I actually know what I want for a X-mas present and don't have to go through the hassle of guessing, LOL. (this is a very surreal sentence...) <img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Kahz
"Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork." -R.A.H.
OUCH! I hope that cut wasn't serious. Well, you guys convinced me for sure. I will be getting the trainer first, then forming another fund for the live one. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
I love it when I actually know what I want for a X-mas present and don't have to go through the hassle of guessing, LOL. (this is a very surreal sentence...) <img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
Kahz
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Samo,
Thanks! I will now know who to look for at knife shows so he can show me some Gunting moves. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
I am excited about this, thanks to all who have responded and educated me in this sense.
Kahz
"In science fiction, space and time warps are a commonplace. They are used for rapid journeys around the galaxy, or for travel through time. But today's science fiction, is often tomorrow's science fact." Stephen Hawking
Thanks! I will now know who to look for at knife shows so he can show me some Gunting moves. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>
I am excited about this, thanks to all who have responded and educated me in this sense.
Kahz
"In science fiction, space and time warps are a commonplace. They are used for rapid journeys around the galaxy, or for travel through time. But today's science fiction, is often tomorrow's science fact." Stephen Hawking