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spyderco native at walmart

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:04 pm
by dete
I just got one.
$42.69 with tax

positives
-thick spine of the blade
-ridges on the spine of the blade
-spyder hole of course
-shape of the pocket clip
-black FRN handle with slip stop design
-relatively straight spine of the blade (slender)

negatives
-I don't like the spring that keeps the blade shut
-the dent on the lock
-the lanyard hole
-use of pins rather than adjustable screws

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:04 pm
by foggy
Being a lockback that thar spring keeps it closed too. :)

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:09 pm
by dete
I think I know what you mean,

because there seems to be no extra mechanisms to make the
blade slam shut at the last part of closing it,

it just seems like it does that because of the way the lock back
was designed... I'm sure this was on purpose, since my
delica does not do this.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:29 pm
by cobrajoe
Now I'm confused. I have a wally world native that has a nice snap shut to it, and it will hold shut very well, just like every other spydie back lock I have.

They are a great deal though, nowhere else can you get the great S30V steel at such a cheap price. Add in a solid egronomic handle, and you have one heck of a great knife at a great price.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:46 am
by The Deacon
The Native does have a relatively weak closing action compared with Spyderco's other front locks. However, that and all the other negatives you mention are common to all S30V Natives, not just the ones from Wal-Mart. The rest are also common to a number of other models. Am not a fan of the Boye dent either, but many Spydercos have it. The lanyard hole too is pretty common, all models that use the barrel bolt style clip have that same lanyard hole. Not sure what it is you dislike about it, is your objection esthetic or practical? Rivets or screws is another matter of taste, there are advantages and disadvantages to both construction methods. Me I prefer not to have to worry about a screw working its way out at an inconvenient time, but can understand that others like to be able to take their knives apart for cleaning.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:50 am
by Qship
The "Boye dent" is a safety feature. I must have half a dozen Natives, and I own an early production version without the dent. If I squeeze the knife tight, as I might do combatively, the lock releases. My wife has different sized hands, and it is not a problem for her. With the dent, the Native will not unlock by itself in my hands.

Screws would be better because they adjust for wear and the right thread locking compound will keep them from backing out without locking them permanently.


Qship

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:28 am
by dete
Cobrajoe, please note that I have more positives than
negatives, I'm just trying to give an honest critique
basically for myself & anyone else interested.
your right the steel is great, handle is ergonomic,
price is lower than most.

Deacon, whether it is common or not, just not a
big fan of the snap closing, and if the one I purchased
is weaker then I'm really lucky, lanyard hole I dislike
because sometimes I like to put a keychain on it,
and my old Delica accepts the keychain like a close kin.
the screw is not just for cleaning, but also one can
adjust the tightness to their preference.

Qship, glad the Boye dent makes a difference for you,
and that it actually serves a purpose for some people,
for me, it does not. And definitely screws are nice...

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:45 am
by cobrajoe
No worries dete, I was thinking that you were saying that your native didn't have the solid snap when closing. Now I see that it's just your preference against the snap. I guess it could be worse though, I had a BRK native for a short time, and sometimes the spring didn't even close the blade completely and would leave some of that pointy tip sticking out of the handle.

I was also chipping in why I love my native, it's definately one of the best blades that walmart sells. (I've got no reason to flame you, if that's what you were seeing)

As for the boyle dent, I guess I'm getting used to it. It actually helps me find the lockbar to release the knife. I still don't think it looks right though, but I guess it's functionality over looks, right?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:55 am
by dete
oh no, definitely no flame,
everyone is so nice here, I can't imagine it on this forum :D

The snap shut & the dent is really not that big of a deal.
so now I'm thinking of the Delica vs the Native.