self-defence pocket dump.
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Michael Cook
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self-defence pocket dump.
:spyder: Do y'all vary your self-protection blades? The two knives I carry in my front two pockets are always dedicated to the job of seeing me home alive and my back pocket carries the knife I actually use for cutting tasks that don't get done by my sheepsfoot ladybug 2. Today I'm rollin' with a pe chinook II right side and my serrated endura hawk (JDSPYDOHAWK) on my left side.
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Lost Jaguar
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Being a southpaw, I'm carrying my waved D4 (with foliage green scales taken form another D4) in my left front pocket. This knife is exclusively for the highly unlikely event of SD. The violent crime rate here is about one RCH above zero.
The user is my ZDP D4 in my left rear pocket.
That's my set up...today.
Who knows? Tomorrow it may be a SS E4 as the user, and my home-waved Manix as the SD shank.
Whenever a package comes from NGK, my wife starts muttering about Imelda Marcos.
The user is my ZDP D4 in my left rear pocket.
That's my set up...today.
Who knows? Tomorrow it may be a SS E4 as the user, and my home-waved Manix as the SD shank.
Whenever a package comes from NGK, my wife starts muttering about Imelda Marcos.
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Michael Cook
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:spyder: Wow y'all never vary yer defence knives? That's wild to me since spyderco makes so many excellant knives that fit the bill. During the adreneline dump of a combative emergency a lot of one's sensitivity of touch goes out the window along with fine motor reflexes and hearing.
Because of this I put much less stress than many on always using the same knife or only training with knives that have identicle drone trainers. Also I never train to kin-op my knives or even one-hand open for me it's only gross motor 2-hand openings. :spyder:
Because of this I put much less stress than many on always using the same knife or only training with knives that have identicle drone trainers. Also I never train to kin-op my knives or even one-hand open for me it's only gross motor 2-hand openings. :spyder:
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spydermdz
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cook, you have solid points. i enjoyed reading this post... training is where its at but i do believe that using the same blade for SD and in practice makes for a better bill when the danger or attacker(s) come.... i feel for the fool(s) that are on the receiving end of my chinook should i ever have to dreadfully use it to save my life... all i know is that i have a death grip in this things when i need it and man, i would hate to see the redness this james keating blade would bring.... the thought of it is frightening... but i feel safe with my chinook II and the training i am doing.. but then again we can never be complacent with our knives and training...
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zenheretic
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I give spydermdz a lot of crap, but I have to agree with him on sticking to one tool for SD. Obviously the Doc agrees on this matter.spydermdz wrote:cook, you have solid points. i enjoyed reading this post... training is where its at but i do believe that using the same blade for SD and in practice makes for a better bill when the danger or attacker(s) come....
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Michael,Michael Cook wrote: :spyder: Wow y'all never vary yer defence knives? That's wild to me since spyderco makes so many excellant knives that fit the bill. During the adreneline dump of a combative emergency a lot of one's sensitivity of touch goes out the window along with fine motor reflexes and hearing.
Because of this I put much less stress than many on always using the same knife or only training with knives that have identicle drone trainers. Also I never train to kin-op my knives or even one-hand open for me it's only gross motor 2-hand openings. :spyder:
I think your concept will work for you, but your level of training is obviously higher than mine/most people.
For myself I think it's best to keep it as simple as possible.
John
Right now:
Custom Waved (ehem...zip-tied) Merlin on left front pocket and ZTied ZDP D4 on right front (with clip reversed to open in reverse grip position). Knives over 3 inches are frowned upon where I live. Plus cutting board plastic knuckles (actually not illegal in Calif...if you have questions PM me), stainless Parker pen, chemical spray.
A switch will be coming soon:
Above with ZDP D4 relegated to utility use and custom fixed blade mounted left-side, 45 degree inverted-crossdraw (I'll post pics in a different thread once I have the knife). Plus S&W Bodyguard and 550 cord monkey's fist with steel ball bearing keychain.
But other than that I leave my gear alone. I used to have quite a few knives I rotated (Hand ground L-UDT, Emerson Commanders, Newt Livesay Woo, Uji, and SOP, etc.), but I've sold most of those (paring down "stuff") and now live/work in a different area.
C :spyder:
Custom Waved (ehem...zip-tied) Merlin on left front pocket and ZTied ZDP D4 on right front (with clip reversed to open in reverse grip position). Knives over 3 inches are frowned upon where I live. Plus cutting board plastic knuckles (actually not illegal in Calif...if you have questions PM me), stainless Parker pen, chemical spray.
A switch will be coming soon:
Above with ZDP D4 relegated to utility use and custom fixed blade mounted left-side, 45 degree inverted-crossdraw (I'll post pics in a different thread once I have the knife). Plus S&W Bodyguard and 550 cord monkey's fist with steel ball bearing keychain.
But other than that I leave my gear alone. I used to have quite a few knives I rotated (Hand ground L-UDT, Emerson Commanders, Newt Livesay Woo, Uji, and SOP, etc.), but I've sold most of those (paring down "stuff") and now live/work in a different area.
C :spyder:
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SD is what you are comfortable with
When I have to venture into the Dark Side of town which is not too often I have a couple of blades I like to have with me. I always use my serrated Massad Ayoob, Matriarch and sometimes if I am in the city at night I carry my Yojimbo.
Sometimes I don't carry the Matriarch I use the Spyderhawk or G-10 Harpy instead. Albeit though I have always had a lot of confidence in the fully serrated blade on my big Dyad.
A few months back I got myself a Gunting trainer and a Temperance trainer. I do hope to see if I can get into one of Bram Franks or Michael Janich's classes here in the next year or so.
Sometimes I don't carry the Matriarch I use the Spyderhawk or G-10 Harpy instead. Albeit though I have always had a lot of confidence in the fully serrated blade on my big Dyad.
A few months back I got myself a Gunting trainer and a Temperance trainer. I do hope to see if I can get into one of Bram Franks or Michael Janich's classes here in the next year or so.
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Richard IV
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Legally I can't carry a blade for self defence 
On the street... But at home I vary between a yojimbo, zip-tie waved kerambit and a kumo (if I'm wearing a belt).
On the street... But at home I vary between a yojimbo, zip-tie waved kerambit and a kumo (if I'm wearing a belt)."Even though I, Bruce Lee, may die some day without fulfilling all of my ambitions, I will have no regrets. I did what I wanted to do and what I've done, I've done with sincerity and to the best of my ability." - Bruce Lee
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I like to think the US is, as you call it, a "civilized" country and hand gun assaults happen everyday. Did you mean because guns are less pervasive in France that it makes it more "civilized"?Richard IV wrote:Any Spyderco would do the job, considering I live in a "civilized" country and do not expect to be assaulted by people using hand guns, bowies or long swords...
Anyway, my SD relies mainly on my feet and my legs. Not to strike, just to run away...
R.IV
I think the carry of a knife to defend ones self is good, so long as you are not out matched. Also I agree that the best defensive knife is one that stays in your pocket while you avoid confrontation.
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Right... :rolleyes: Crime never happens in France.Richard IV wrote:Any Spyderco would do the job, considering I live in a "civilized" country and do not expect to be assaulted by people using hand guns, bowies or long swords...
Anyway, my SD relies mainly on my feet and my legs. Not to strike, just to run away...
R.IV
While gun laws are very strict in France as I understand, it goes without saying that criminals are still able to obtain firearms. Yes, even in your "utopia" France.
Also, here in uncivilized America people are mugged and robbed everyday with long swords. :p :rolleyes:
Running is a great option, but sometimes it's not available. MBC is a legitimate form of self defense in these cases.
Oh, and maybe you're not aware, but one of the world's masters of knifemaking and MBC technique, Fred Perrin, lives in your "civilized" country.
Sorry to come on so strong, but I take offense that you look down at the United States as an inferior and uncivilized nation.
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Richard IV
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Well... I'm badly misunderstood
Never meant anything like that...
I was more thinking about cities like Mogadishu or Baghdad, where it's easier to be shot by an AK-47 than in London, New-York or Paris, and where I wouldn't only rely on a knife for my own security...
And I see USA as a civilized nation :) .
R.IV
Never meant anything like that...
I was more thinking about cities like Mogadishu or Baghdad, where it's easier to be shot by an AK-47 than in London, New-York or Paris, and where I wouldn't only rely on a knife for my own security...
And I see USA as a civilized nation :) .
R.IV
Sorry for the misunderstanding-I see your point.Richard IV wrote:Well... I'm badly misunderstood
Never meant anything like that...
I was more thinking about cities like Mogadishu or Baghdad, where it's easier to be shot by an AK-47 than in London, New-York or Paris, and where I wouldn't only rely on a knife for my own security...
And I see USA as a civilized nation :) .
R.IV
I totally agree with that.
:spyder: The peace of heaven is theirs that lift their swords, in such a just and charitable war.
-William Shakespeare :spyder:
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Para-force, DFD04
Don't jump on your high horses just yet.
First Richard IV is French, living in France. You may have missed the fact that he writes in YOUR language (or tries to, as I am :p ), which I am pretty sure you couldn't reciprocate. That means he may not know all the words in Webster's dictionary.
2) considering 1), may I point to the fact that he used "quoting marks" around the word incriminated.
3) last and maybe not quite least, there is one thing in English that I discovered in England that somehow struggles to cross the pond, (even though the natives here will dispute the fact that they speak the same language as you :p :p :p ). It is called IRONY
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That said, Richard IV was making the same point as I was a few days ago, i.e. that in Old Europe (it works for the UK as well) SD situation do not seem to arise as much. As a matter of fact, and considering the press works the same way ("if it bleeds, it leads") cases are seldomly reported.
As for
which does not contredict Richard's
Don't jump on your high horses just yet.
First Richard IV is French, living in France. You may have missed the fact that he writes in YOUR language (or tries to, as I am :p ), which I am pretty sure you couldn't reciprocate. That means he may not know all the words in Webster's dictionary.
2) considering 1), may I point to the fact that he used "quoting marks" around the word incriminated.
3) last and maybe not quite least, there is one thing in English that I discovered in England that somehow struggles to cross the pond, (even though the natives here will dispute the fact that they speak the same language as you :p :p :p ). It is called IRONY
.That said, Richard IV was making the same point as I was a few days ago, i.e. that in Old Europe (it works for the UK as well) SD situation do not seem to arise as much. As a matter of fact, and considering the press works the same way ("if it bleeds, it leads") cases are seldomly reported.
As for
Same Fred also said "80% of self defense is footwork"para-force wrote:Oh, and maybe you're not aware, but one of the world's masters of knifemaking and MBC technique, Fred Perrin, lives in your "civilized" country.
which does not contredict Richard's
And if I could only humbly suggest to all forumites: Please, no matter how much you've trained, no matter how many weapons you carry, if confronted try to run. Push your family in front of you when you do, and turn around if you can't avoid it but let RUNNING be your first option.my SD relies mainly on my feet and my legs. Not to strike, just to run away...
[quote="Saint-Just"]Para-force, DFD04
Don't jump on your high horses just yet.
First Richard IV is French, living in France. You may have missed the fact that he writes in YOUR language (or tries to, as I am :p ), which I am pretty sure you couldn't reciprocate. That means he may not know all the words in Webster's dictionary.
2) considering 1), may I point to the fact that he used "quoting marks" around the word incriminated.
3) last and maybe not quite least, there is one thing in English that I discovered in England that somehow struggles to cross the pond, (even though the natives here will dispute the fact that they speak the same language as you :p :p :p ). It is called IRONY ]
I dont think you can make the correlation of the 80% footwork quote with running. I believe the 80% refers to the stance/way you position your body.
I do however aggree about getting out of a bad situation.
After the clarification post by Richard I stated that I understood and agreed with him.
Thanks for your input.
Don't jump on your high horses just yet.
First Richard IV is French, living in France. You may have missed the fact that he writes in YOUR language (or tries to, as I am :p ), which I am pretty sure you couldn't reciprocate. That means he may not know all the words in Webster's dictionary.
2) considering 1), may I point to the fact that he used "quoting marks" around the word incriminated.
3) last and maybe not quite least, there is one thing in English that I discovered in England that somehow struggles to cross the pond, (even though the natives here will dispute the fact that they speak the same language as you :p :p :p ). It is called IRONY ]
I dont think you can make the correlation of the 80% footwork quote with running. I believe the 80% refers to the stance/way you position your body.
I do however aggree about getting out of a bad situation.
After the clarification post by Richard I stated that I understood and agreed with him.
Thanks for your input.
:spyder: The peace of heaven is theirs that lift their swords, in such a just and charitable war.
-William Shakespeare :spyder:
-William Shakespeare :spyder:
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Sorry DFD04,
I hadn't noticed Richard was still online and wanted to diffuse a possible lashing after 2 post (yours and Para-force) reacted against his.
Richard replied while I was writing, hence the "after the battle" feeling of my post. Just proves that on our side the cavalry isn't always on time :D :D :D .
As for Perrin, of course you are right. But it is the irony I was mentioning in my post. In effect, what Richard was saying was consistant with Fred. Only in a different way :D .
My apologies for stepping in. :o
I hadn't noticed Richard was still online and wanted to diffuse a possible lashing after 2 post (yours and Para-force) reacted against his.
Richard replied while I was writing, hence the "after the battle" feeling of my post. Just proves that on our side the cavalry isn't always on time :D :D :D .
As for Perrin, of course you are right. But it is the irony I was mentioning in my post. In effect, what Richard was saying was consistant with Fred. Only in a different way :D .
My apologies for stepping in. :o