Bram Frank

[The Nose]

Hi,
my name is Michael and I am living in Karlsruhe, Southwest Germany. This is my first visit here, please excuse "old and boring questions" from me and my "not so good english" too.
I am a Self defense Instructor, so I own some tactical knives, my favourite is my Gunting. Do you know here about new products of Bram Frank in coorporation with the Spyderco company, I am especially interested in follow ups of the gunting, folding knives etc.
CU
Michael

[Hannibal Lecter]

My friend,

It is my understanding that Spyderco and Bram Frank no longer have a working relationship and that Bram is (or was) actively seeking another company to produce his designs.

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Hannibal

[Jim Malone]

Welcome to the forum Michael. Sadly with the ending of the production version of the Gunting and de departement of Michael Janich the knowledge on Defensive knife techniques have slowly diminished on this forum.

Bram still has an active website http://www.cssdsc.com/ and loyal followers.
The same applies to Michael janich ( designer of the Ronin/Yojimbo) who has sadly ended his cooperation with :spyder: , and now works for another knife company.

I don't know if Bram is still active on the forum, but Michael pops up once in a while.

There are avid Gunting collectors inhere, they might give you more information.

Greetz

[Mr Blonde]

For 'follow-ups' to the MBC line, all gems in their own right, look for the Chinook II or Yojimbo to name a few.

Wouter

[spydutch]

Willkommen Michael :cool:

Enjoy your stay over here

[ront]

I have heard from, who I believe is a fairly reliable source, that the Gunting will most likely be produced in the future by Columbia River Knife and Tool company.

Ron

[ghostrider]

Welcome to the forum Michael.

I have heard from, who I believe is a fairly reliable source, that the Gunting will most likely be produced in the future by Columbia River Knife and Tool company.

Ron

That should prove to be interesting.

[smcfalls13]

I have heard from, who I believe is a fairly reliable source, that the Gunting will most likely be produced in the future by Columbia River Knife and Tool company.

Ron

That's almost as bad of an idea as having Ontario make the Abaniko...

The Gunting deserves a good manufacturer who will produce it the way it should be produced. As inappropriate as it is on this forum, the only company I feel is qualified to make the Gunting would be Benchmade. :o

Not that I'd like to see that, an Axis lock Gunting would be a horrible idea in my opinion. It's just they're the only other company with knives of comparable quality to Spyderco.

The others fall way behind in my experience.

[JD Spydo]

That's almost as bad of an idea as having Ontario make the Abaniko...

The Gunting deserves a good manufacturer who will produce it the way it should be produced. As inappropriate as it is on this forum, the only company I feel is qualified to make the Gunting would be Benchmade. :o

Not that I'd like to see that, an Axis lock Gunting would be a horrible idea in my opinion. It's just they're the only other company with knives of comparable quality to Spyderco.

The others fall way behind in my experience.

That's not necessarily so Scott. Benchmade would not necessarily be confined to making it with an axis lock. They have other locking mechanisms that they could implement. Although I do have other reasons that I won't say here on the Forum as to why I don't think that Mr. Frank and BM wouldn't make a good partnership. I think that Boker would even be a much better pick for Bram Frank to use rather than CRKT ( Taiwan express) IMO.

The more I think about it I can't see why some reputable German Company doesn't strike up a deal with him :confused: . There are also about 3 really decent Japanese Companies who would do the Gunting justice.

[zenheretic]

Hello The Nose, welcome to our forum. Everyone has stated all that we have, sorry to say it isn't what you had hoped. Plenty of us love to talk about the Gunting though. Stick around. Spyderco makes other great MBC/defense knives as Mr. Blonde has stated.

[Delica_Nut]

I have heard from, who I believe is a fairly reliable source, that the Gunting will most likely be produced in the future by Columbia River Knife and Tool company.

Hmmm. Sharpened on only oneside too i bet!

[Kytac]

Believe me, the next Guntings come from Germany...I have seen the Protos on IWA in Nürnberg...and Bram was impressed ;-)

[smcfalls13]

That's not necessarily so Scott. Benchmade would not necessarily be confined to making it with an axis lock. They have other locking mechanisms that they could implement.

Well if the Gunting requires the strongest possible lock, I would have assumed the Axis would have been it, as it's always touted as the "strongest."

Does Boker have any locks strong enough? They've got different mechanisms, but I don't know if any would be up to par.

Nothing can top the Compression Lock for stength and reliability, so whoever makes it has some enormous shoes to fill.

A CRKT Gunting would probably be chisel ground and a frame lock. I wouldn't trust a monkey to use it without hurting themselves.

[JD Spydo]

Well if the Gunting requires the strongest possible lock, I would have assumed the Axis would have been it, as it's always touted as the "strongest."

Does Boker have any locks strong enough? They've got different mechanisms, but I don't know if any would be up to par.

Nothing can top the Compression Lock for stength and reliability, so whoever makes it has some enormous shoes to fill.

A CRKT Gunting would probably be chisel ground and a frame lock. I wouldn't trust a monkey to use it without hurting themselves.

I do prefer the Spyderco version head & shoulders above anyone else's thus far. However I think the real way to market that knife is to have it made by a custom maker who produces a lot of blades. Chris Reeve I bet would do a great job with it. But a knife of that caliber might be better suited to be made by someone in that arena.

I have no idea what transpired to relieve Spyderco of their duty for building thee Gunting. But I am sure it will be one of the most sought after collector pieces in the next year or so. I don't think it will be too much longer we will see a combo edged S30V Spyderco Gunting fetch a $350 price. I had to pay $163 just to get myself one of the red handled trainers.

[smcfalls13]

Chris Reeve I bet would do a great job with it.

That's not a bad idea at all, but a Gunting by Chris Reeve is like a shotgun made by Tiffany's. I associate Chris Reeves knives with aesthetics. His knives are well made, but too pretty for a combat knife. Sure they'd work flawlessly, but that's not the demographic his knives go to.

After some thought, I think the only semi-custom company capable of producing the Gunting would be Strider. Only company I would trust the Gunting to. Not to mention the demographic that buys Striders are the same who would buy the Gunting.

What are your thoughts on that?

We've gotten a little off topic though now. Kristi, if you want to move this thread, feel free, it's probably best suited to off topic anyway, as it's only distantly related to Spyderco now...

[BlackNinja]

I think Strider would be a good choice!

[Axlis]

Welcome to the forum The Nose, hope you enjoy it here :)

[The Nose]

Hi,
I mailed Bram's CSSD/SC represantative in germany, Florian,
but I didn't heard anything of him, he was with Bram at the IWA in Nurnberg.
Boker would be a good choice, I get wholesale prices from this copmpany, this would be a nice price for me....
CU and thanx for your answers!
Michael

[argyll]

After some thought, I think the only semi-custom company capable of producing the Gunting would be Strider. Only company I would trust the Gunting to. Not to mention the demographic that buys Striders are the same who would buy the Gunting.

What are your thoughts on that?

From what I've seen of the online personalities of Bram and the Strider guys I think it would be a match made in **** :eek: Seriously, I doubt they could do business together.

Best regards,

Argyll

[smcfalls13]

From what I've seen of the online personalities of Bram and the Strider guys I think it would be a match made in **** :eek: Seriously, I doubt they could do business together.

Best regards,

Argyll

I haven't had the chance to correspond with either of them, so I don't know they're personalities. Why would it be bad?