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Ayoob folder?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2001 12:00 am
by Rory Quinn
Hi all-



I'm aware that there has already been at least one thread on the subject of Massad Ayoob's spyderco folder, but I was interested in hearing some more opinions as I have been looking at a plainedge model in NY's Paragon sports.



Does anyone out there have any more comments regarding the design- i.e have you 'gone off' the forward cant of the blade over time, or become more and more impressed with it? Also, the 'slippyness' of the grip is a concern and I would like to hear some opinions.



The shop also has a number of Starmates in stock, and I was wondering whether people would compare the Ayoob favourably / disfavourably with this design, or is it a case of comparing apples and oranges?



Thanks for any input,



Rory Quinn

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2001 5:25 am
by ronin203
Hi rory, I'm thinking of the ayoob too. I haven't been able to handle one yet though. My only concern is how strong the lock is with the blade at that angle. If anyone can answer that for me i would really appreciate it. I really like the looks of the knife, it reminds me of the folding UUK.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 12:11 am
by chambers
Ronin my concern would be user muscle memory, we're all used to having a folder slide all the way open how many people are gonna cut themselves a few times before they get it right?

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 1:07 am
by Paul Rouleau
I've had no problems with the Ayoob so far.I'ts pistol like grip feels good in the hand.Like the UUK it seems to work best when held in a boxer type of stance.When held in this body structure the point is on target in both forward and reverse grips.If you handle either of these knives you will understand what I am describing.The lock should hold fine as long as you don't deliver a forceful thrust to a bony or armored target,but this is true with all folders.It carries great due to it being light,thin and it's clip location that allows it to ride low in a pocket.The clip is also reversible making it a natural left hand carry knife if you carry two folders as I often do.The grip is slick but due to it's design and curve is quite secure in the hand.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 5:30 am
by ronin203
My concern as far as the lock is how it would hold up if you do a trapping maneuver like you can with the UUK. I also like the fact that you can change the clip for lefthand carry. I always carry two folders.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2001 1:14 pm
by seth
here's My take on the Ayoob:

It's a very slim and low profile knife. When I'm in my dress slacks, it rides IWB, near the cell phone, It's never been noticed in the staff meetings.

Once your used to it, the opening style causes no problems; you feel the lockup. It's a MBC knife so the lock a has a high force rating. In a defensive grip, it keeps your wrist in a natural locked position, which aids in a stong secure stroke.

The down-side is the smooth metal scales. They are slippery. My remedy here was an application of stair friction tape. Cut in small circles to match my finger pressure points. It provides much better gripping feedback, yet may, depending upon your tastes, make the knife unsightly.

-Seth

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2001 12:24 am
by ronin203
Thanks Seth, if the lock is rated for an MBC knife, then it should do just fine. Any other suggestions for making the handle less slippery. I think that tape would hang up on your clothes if you needed to draw the knife quickly.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2001 8:42 am
by seth
Friction tape comes in many grits. Some of the skateboard stuff is almost like coarse sandpaper, the stuff meant for stairs can be found smoother. The key is how much tape is applied to the handles. It will take some testing, but use just enough to prevent slippage. You may not have to cover the entire handle in tape. I try and match my finger pressure areas. When Drawing from the waistband of my wool slacks no hang-up is encountered.

-Seth

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2001 9:11 pm
by ronin203
Thanks guy's, i'll try that as soon as i get mine.