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New Not Gunting
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:02 am
by bob7
Howdy,
I never really liked how the gunting carried because of the horn and the pocket clip placement. So, I did something about it. It's waved by taking the dremel tool to the horn, and then I sent the knife off to a part-time maker, who shall remain nameless until I get his permission to post his name. He drilled both sides for tip up carry and cleaned up my dremel marks.
The knife works as waved or by thumbing the hook open. Works well drawing into a pikal grip... 1 second hit, w/ power, from pocket to 2x4 target, timed by shot timer.
Hope this modification doesn't offend Mr. Glesser or Mr. Emerson; it will never be for sale because it works so well.
Spemersoning
Thanks,
bob7
Interesting...
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:22 am
by Hannibal Lecter
My Dear Bob7,
bob7 wrote:I never really liked how the gunting carried because of the horn and the pocket clip placement. So, I did something about it. It's waved by taking the dremel tool to the horn, and then I sent the knife off to a part-time maker, who shall remain nameless until I get his permission to post his name. He drilled both sides for tip up carry and cleaned up my dremel marks.
Out of morbid curiosity, why use the Gunting for such a conversion? Methinks there would be any number of Spyderco knives that would convert as easily or more easily. Did you just have one lying around?
I understand your problems with the horn and clip placement, but time has taught me that every feature of the Gunting works exactly as designed when
used as designed. Tucking it in your pants does get a bit uncomfortable. :eek: This explains the large number of sheath makers for this particular knife... :D
I personally think that the Gunting is the one knife that should really have included a DVD with each knife purchased to explain the concept and use of this unusual design. I feel that this would have negated a LOT of the complaints with the Gunting.
bob7 wrote:The knife works as waved or by thumbing the hook open. Works well drawing into a pikal grip... 1 second hit, w/ power, from pocket to 2x4 target, timed by shot timer.
Impressive results. I need more practice apparently... :p
bob7 wrote:Hope this modification doesn't offend Mr. Glesser or Mr. Emerson]
I think that Bram Frank is the one voted most likely to be offended...
Just kidding. I am glad it works for you, but you are exactly correct in your thread title: not a Gunting, but a cool Spyderco knife mod nonetheless! :cool:
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Hannibal
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:35 am
by Simona
LOL.
****, you destroyed Gunting....and totally...
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:40 am
by Dr. Snubnose
:eek: Glad you said it and not me Simona

LOL....Doc
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:45 am
by bob7
Hannibal,
I used the gunting because of the following:
1. I owned one, but I never carried it in its prior configuration.
2. Look at the picture. Removing the horn and using part of the hole for a hook did not weaken the blade in the least. If you waved an endura by opening the hole, the blade is weakend laterally. Hope I explained that right.
3. It's the best made, strongest folding knife I've ever owned. I had to find a way that I'd carry it and use it.
And, the shot clock thing, I can't do that every time. I'm still leaning, but it's fun to try for academic purposes.
Thanks,
bob7
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:48 am
by spyderknut
I think it's pretty cool to see folks modify production knives to suit their personal needs, desires or style. Nice job, Bob.
Good Points...
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:05 am
by Hannibal Lecter
My Dear Bob7,
bob7 wrote:1. I owned one, but I never carried it in its prior configuration.
It is very different from any other blade I have ever owned.
bob7 wrote:2. Look at the picture. Removing the horn and using part of the hole for a hook did not weaken the blade in the least. If you waved an endura by opening the hole, the blade is weakend laterally. Hope I explained that right.
I understand completely.
bob7 wrote:3. It's the best made, strongest folding knife I've ever owned. I had to find a way that I'd carry it and use it.
That I can understand. It is an amazing knife. FWIW, try a Chinook sometime]And, the shot clock thing, I can't do that every time. I'm still leaning, but it's fun to try for academic purposes.[/QUOTE]
Oh, absolutely! I
loved playing with one with firearms and I am sure using a knife will be equally rewarding.
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Best of fun with the mods,
Hannibal
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:56 am
by dialex
Thanks for sharing this interesing mod.
IMHO it no longer is a Gunting (and I'm almost sure Bram will agree with me on this one), but you got yourself a strong and reliable wave opening knife.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:52 am
by Senate
Don't tell Bram! :D
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:01 pm
by Michael Cook
is it a gunting if one gunts with it? It is certianly no longer a kinetic opener!
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:17 pm
by clovisc
oh man -- seeing these pictures almost gave me a heart attack at first! a neutered gunting!!!!??! :eek: :eek: :eek:
oughta rename it "the eunuch." :D :D :D
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:40 pm
by Chris_H
Interesting mod & re-design. It's good to hear that you'll carry it now -- that's what you wanted anyway.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:51 pm
by roloss_valdes
Great job, if you want to do something, just do it, the waved feature is great, I have the new waved endura, it work like a champ.
I love it, because of the wave, hole, size, weight, etc.
masakatsu agatsu!
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:26 am
by Michael Cook
:spyder: Are you going to rename it? Plenty of precedent for that kind of thing, :cool: :spyder:
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:54 am
by thom lambert
I think it's a great mod! The Gunting is so specific to a certain set of techniques; I could see modding it if you don't use those techniques. Many times I have been tempted to buy a Gunting, not because I want to take advantage of the SD design, but because it is such a well built, unique knife that looks useful as an EDC. If it serves your purpose, and it sounds like it does, then more power to you.
Thom
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 6:24 am
by bob7
Howdy,
I'm glad there's a lot of understanding here. The knife has turned out to be a very good, do everything type of knife now. Before, the horn would prevent it from doing certain things well, say slicing a tomato.
I haven't named or re-named a knife before.
As to the techniques, you're right- if you don't suscribe to them, why keep the features that get in the way of everything but those techniques. Hope I'm saying that right; it's meant to be nice.
Thanks,
bob7
This knife's compression lock is a thing of beauty and simplicity, as well as the Temp. Jr.'s.
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:14 am
by Michael Cook
:spyder: And now you'll never be tempted to re-sell what was a highly sought collectable knife!

:spyder:
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 5:45 pm
by The Deacon
Well Bob, my feeling is that once you've paid for something, it is yours to do with pretty much as you please, as long as you don't harm or endanger anyone in the process. Can't say I find the mod appealing, but it's not my knife, or my money that went into doing the mod. If you are happy with it, that's all that counts. Heck, Sal has politely explained to me that chamfering the thumbhole on a Spyderco is not a good idea, as it increases the chance of your finger slipping, but I still prefer the thumbholes chamfered on the ones I carry.
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:45 pm
by Joe Talmadge
Lord help me, I really dig that mod. I'd be tempted to muck with it further: round off the horn that separates the fingers on the handle, and it looks like it'd be comfortable in reverse grip edge-in. Fair little pakal fighter!
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:04 am
by bob7
The knife is very comfortable in a pakal grip, edge in.
To facilitate a faster draw I changed the clip to the other side, left side, but still carry it in my right front pocket. Makes it very fast into the pakal grip.
Also, because the point is below the centerline of the knife makes it pretty suitable for a pakal type jab, theoretically speaking, of course.
Thanks,
bob7