Now I cant decide between these two. What do you think?
- spydercolchester
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Now I cant decide between these two. What do you think?
Now I cant decide between the manix and the Chinook II :) :) :)
Which one is better?
I need it for selfdefence, some hunting and skinning and food preperation in the kichen, general outdoor tasks, work, seems like almost everything.
is the tip on the chinook a week point?
Which of these two is sharper?
what is your fav and why please?
can you tell I how badly I am hooked :) :) :o
Which one is better?
I need it for selfdefence, some hunting and skinning and food preperation in the kichen, general outdoor tasks, work, seems like almost everything.
is the tip on the chinook a week point?
Which of these two is sharper?
what is your fav and why please?
can you tell I how badly I am hooked :) :) :o
- Dr. Snubnose
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I have the Chinook II what an Incredible Knife...the point is very very strong and would be a great option for all the things you mention. I don't have the manix so others who do on this forum would be better equipted to answer your questions. I bought the Chinook for the Self-Defense purposes. I think it is more than capable for that task and then some.
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Hopefully you have some serious knife training for self defense if you plan on using it for that.
Most, if not all, of us will not recommend buying a knife for SD if you are untrained. I will not use a knife for SD unless I have to. I will always run first and only use the knife in a last resort situation where I have no other choice and I'm cornered.
So back to your question. I don't like how the Chinook looks, so I say buy a Manix :)
Also, if you're going to carry this every day, you might want to think about your legal blade length limits for your local area. The Manix is a big guy :)
Most, if not all, of us will not recommend buying a knife for SD if you are untrained. I will not use a knife for SD unless I have to. I will always run first and only use the knife in a last resort situation where I have no other choice and I'm cornered.
So back to your question. I don't like how the Chinook looks, so I say buy a Manix :)
Also, if you're going to carry this every day, you might want to think about your legal blade length limits for your local area. The Manix is a big guy :)
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Welcome to the Spyderco Forum. The Chinook is a strong, big folder. The tip is not an issue, I dare to say it is strong enough to cope with most of your tasks you're throwing it at.
However, I'd pick the Manix. Not that it would be anything wrong with the Chinook, but from what you said you need the knife for, I think a full flat grind blade would fit your needs better.
Bot have great ergonomics and super strong locks and are made out of top materials (S30V and G10 is a winning combination from the start).
However, I'd pick the Manix. Not that it would be anything wrong with the Chinook, but from what you said you need the knife for, I think a full flat grind blade would fit your needs better.
Bot have great ergonomics and super strong locks and are made out of top materials (S30V and G10 is a winning combination from the start).
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Fisher of Men wrote:Hopefully you have some serious knife training for self defense if you plan on using it for that.
Most, if not all, of us will not recommend buying a knife for SD if you are untrained. I will not use a knife for SD unless I have to. I will always run first and only use the knife in a last resort situation where I have no other choice and I'm cornered.
So back to your question. I don't like how the Chinook looks, so I say buy a Manix :)
Also, if you're going to carry this every day, you might want to think about your legal blade length limits for your local area. The Manix is a big guy :)
IIRC, both knives have the same blade lenght ( 3 3/4 ").
I've got both. The tip of the Chinook II is reasonably robust -- the spine is fairly thick right up to the point.
For me the choice would boil down to weighing which purpose is most important to you. If it's self defense, then I'd go with the Chinook II -- it was designed by James Keating for MBC. If it's hunting and camping chores, go with the Manix -- the flat ground leaf blade is probably better suitied for those tasks.
For me the choice would boil down to weighing which purpose is most important to you. If it's self defense, then I'd go with the Chinook II -- it was designed by James Keating for MBC. If it's hunting and camping chores, go with the Manix -- the flat ground leaf blade is probably better suitied for those tasks.
Manix IMHO, I had the opportunity to hold one and it is SOLID! I was really surprised at how thick and chunky it was, really felt like it could take whatever task you can dish out. I thought I would not buy another Spyderco for a while, especially when I own Emerson and Strider knives, but the Manix is built tough enough to warrant my wanting one! :D
Also, the handles have holes drilled for left and right carry and tip up and tip down carry!
Also, the handles have holes drilled for left and right carry and tip up and tip down carry!
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I posted the following at the bladeforums passaround a while ago:
To start with the bottom line: I really liked the Chinook II, more so than I expected. Initially I signed up to get a feeling of its sturdyness, because I was interested in the Manix, which is based on the design of the Chinook and didn't really consider the Chinook because of its strongly curved blade. But by the time the Chinook reached me, I had already pulled the trigger and had bought the Manix and so could compare them side by side. The sturdyness therefore came as no surprise. However, purely from the feel of it, neither the Chinook nor the Manix hold the price for Spyderco's hardest use folder. The Lil'T does. But this is not to say that the Chinook is lacking in anyway in that regard. Comparing the Manix with the Chinook II, I will have to agree that the leaf shaped blade is probably more useful for EDC than the "scimitar" blade of the Chinook, but really I didn't found the Chinook blade all that unuseful. Its a different type of cutting, while on the leaf shape blade the first 0.5 in from the tip probably do most of the work, the Chinook cuts more with its enormous belly and in many cases makes actually a cleaner cut, as you stay away from the tip and don't initiate the cut with the tip. I found that I had to "re-learn" the cutting with my Mini-Canadian, which has a very pronounced skinner blade. The Chinook compares to that. At the same time I will say that I absolutely hated the combo edge. The CE starts right were you would do the most cutting and you lose the benefits of the clean cut due to the serrations. All in all I don't really see a problem to carry the Chinook II as EDC. I would give the Manix still the nod for pure functionality though. Where the Chinook II pulled clearly ahead was the looks. Its really hard to explain, the Chinook didn't really appeal to me on pictures, but when I had it in my hand I really liked it, the handle and blade a very balanced and the wicked curvature together with the hollow grid and the champfer on the spine give it much more appeal than the Manix has. Also the very pronounced "hump" over the hole make it a very "typical" Spyderco, which is a look that I have come to get used to and like. It's a very un-generic knife. It just takes one look and you know what knife it is and who made it. Finally, I really enjoyed that fact that this was a refurbished knife. It clearly went through a few hands before me, but it "aged very gracefully". The G-10 was just a tad softer and "hand polished" than those of my new Manix and it gave it the "well loved" look. Since holding the Chinook II am really looking forward to wearing in my Manix. It seems it will just get better with age (just like me ). Lock up, lock strength, heft etc. I am not going to talk about, those are all things that the Chinook II has made a name for itself by now. Despite the weight and size of the Chinook (which really isn't all that bad IMO) it carries very well. I know that many have complained about the high ride with the pocked clip, I really like it as it carrys very comfortable because of it.
In the end I would have a hard time choosing between the Chinook II and the Manix if it were not for the handle shape. Even though the handle of the Chinook II is a bit shorter and seems a little more balanced with the blade (even though the Manix probably maintains the balance as the blade is also heavier, but it doesn't quite look as balanced), the refinements that Eric Glesser made on the handle really take the ball out of the park IMO. The ergos on the Chinook are not bad....quite good actually, but they don't compare to those on the Manix. The Chinook feels good but the Manix really locks in my hand as if it was made for me.
To start with the bottom line: I really liked the Chinook II, more so than I expected. Initially I signed up to get a feeling of its sturdyness, because I was interested in the Manix, which is based on the design of the Chinook and didn't really consider the Chinook because of its strongly curved blade. But by the time the Chinook reached me, I had already pulled the trigger and had bought the Manix and so could compare them side by side. The sturdyness therefore came as no surprise. However, purely from the feel of it, neither the Chinook nor the Manix hold the price for Spyderco's hardest use folder. The Lil'T does. But this is not to say that the Chinook is lacking in anyway in that regard. Comparing the Manix with the Chinook II, I will have to agree that the leaf shaped blade is probably more useful for EDC than the "scimitar" blade of the Chinook, but really I didn't found the Chinook blade all that unuseful. Its a different type of cutting, while on the leaf shape blade the first 0.5 in from the tip probably do most of the work, the Chinook cuts more with its enormous belly and in many cases makes actually a cleaner cut, as you stay away from the tip and don't initiate the cut with the tip. I found that I had to "re-learn" the cutting with my Mini-Canadian, which has a very pronounced skinner blade. The Chinook compares to that. At the same time I will say that I absolutely hated the combo edge. The CE starts right were you would do the most cutting and you lose the benefits of the clean cut due to the serrations. All in all I don't really see a problem to carry the Chinook II as EDC. I would give the Manix still the nod for pure functionality though. Where the Chinook II pulled clearly ahead was the looks. Its really hard to explain, the Chinook didn't really appeal to me on pictures, but when I had it in my hand I really liked it, the handle and blade a very balanced and the wicked curvature together with the hollow grid and the champfer on the spine give it much more appeal than the Manix has. Also the very pronounced "hump" over the hole make it a very "typical" Spyderco, which is a look that I have come to get used to and like. It's a very un-generic knife. It just takes one look and you know what knife it is and who made it. Finally, I really enjoyed that fact that this was a refurbished knife. It clearly went through a few hands before me, but it "aged very gracefully". The G-10 was just a tad softer and "hand polished" than those of my new Manix and it gave it the "well loved" look. Since holding the Chinook II am really looking forward to wearing in my Manix. It seems it will just get better with age (just like me ). Lock up, lock strength, heft etc. I am not going to talk about, those are all things that the Chinook II has made a name for itself by now. Despite the weight and size of the Chinook (which really isn't all that bad IMO) it carries very well. I know that many have complained about the high ride with the pocked clip, I really like it as it carrys very comfortable because of it.
In the end I would have a hard time choosing between the Chinook II and the Manix if it were not for the handle shape. Even though the handle of the Chinook II is a bit shorter and seems a little more balanced with the blade (even though the Manix probably maintains the balance as the blade is also heavier, but it doesn't quite look as balanced), the refinements that Eric Glesser made on the handle really take the ball out of the park IMO. The ergos on the Chinook are not bad....quite good actually, but they don't compare to those on the Manix. The Chinook feels good but the Manix really locks in my hand as if it was made for me.
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Uh...has anyone chose the Manix yet? :D
I say Manix. PERIOD.
God bless :cool:
Uh...has anyone chose the Manix yet? :D
I say Manix. PERIOD.
God bless :cool:
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