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Does anyone have experience with the Fred Perrin in an SD situation?



It's hard to find stuff on Fred Perrin's designs and concepts and I'm wondering how it is to be used seriously.



It seems to be made with compactness and easy carry in mind and though it's a Bowie, are backcuts really feasible? Feels like I'm missing something about what it can do...

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Be @ Peace..John3:17

The problem with back cuts with any modern Bowie variation is that the back edge is not usually sharpened out of the box, just tapered to a "false edge". If you sharpen the back edge, you probably have a double edged knife, which is illegal to carry in most jurisdictions.

Qship

Thanks Mike! I found the review I needed, a nice article on James Keating, and lots more! <img src="tongue.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Qship, I read you.
No backcuts then, pity...

Edited by - Shards of Narsil on 5/17/2004 10:07:20 PM

I've trained Bowie ala Keating and have studied and used the back cut in a variety of training situations and on various styles of cutting dummies. the most vicious back cutting knife I had was a Cold Steel Recon Bowie. This was in comparison to three other blades with double edges, an Ontario Frontiersman of Bagwell design, the Cold Steel version of the Randall 1 and a Pacific Cutlery spear point. None even came close to the seriousness of the tanto.

The back cut doesn't work because of a secondary edge, it works because the angle of the tip allows it to rip through the target like a giant claw. Bill Bagwell realized this a couple years ago and responded to it by giving his tips a slight upsweep.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't love to have a sharpened back edge in combination with the upswept point. But here in Oregon you can't legally conceal a double edged blade.