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Dr. Snubnose wrote:Well if that's the case....I think you would be better armed with a golf club...and remember when watching the lighting show....hold it high above your head just in case there is a vicious dog in the vicinity. :p Doc :D

Does he live near Tiger Woods? :D

Also, some would just rather not announce it on a public forum.

I think Paul Lives in the woods (with the bears no tigers in NYS cept for the zoo).....Doc :p

Dr. Snubnose wrote:Well if that's the case....I think you would be better armed with a golf club...and remember when watching the lighting show....hold it high above your head just in case there is a vicious dog in the vicinity. :p Doc :D

Get the feeling you'd like to see me dead. At the very least you don't seem to have my best interests at heart. However, the new CF shafted clubs may be non-conductive, so your fiendish plot might fail even if I were dumb enough to fall for it. :p Not to mention that folks around here aren't into the "don't snitch" gansta mentality. Just the opposite, they tend to report any and all odd behavior and I think at least half of them have the local PD on speed dial. :D

Dr. Snubnose wrote:I think Paul Lives in the woods (with the bears no tigers in NYS cept for the zoo).....Doc :p

Nope, not any more. Use to though. Lived five miles from the nearest place you could buy a quart of milk or gallon of gas, ten from the nearest FD, supermarket, PO, or bank for the first few years after I escaped from Long Island.

Where I live now is suburban/rural, but we do see deer and rabbits on the lawn fairly often and at least one bear has been spotted raiding the dumpsters after a hard winter. No tigers though, just an occasional bobcat.

We have strip malls and big box stores, fast food joints, car dealerships and used car lots, but there's also a small dairy farm a mile down the road and another farm that raises buffalo for meat a few miles further away. Had a steak from them just the other day.

Aside from the large animals, the most noticeable difference between here and, say Setauket or Port Jeff the last time I was there, 25 to 30 years ago, is traffic. Can't recall sitting through more than one red at a traffic light, or more than 30 seconds at a stop sign or pulling out of a parking lot, at least not on my side of the river.

Most important, there is very little violent crime in my town and virtually all of the little which does occur is either domestic violence or the weapon is an automobile and the perp is a drunk.

The Deacon wrote:Get the feeling you'd like to see me dead. At the very least you don't seem to have my best interests at heart. However, the new CF shafted clubs may be non-conductive, so your fiendish plot might fail even if I were dumb enough to fall for it. :p Not to mention that folks around here aren't into the "don't snitch" gansta mentality. Just the opposite, they tend to report any and all odd behavior and I think at least half of them have the local PD on speed dial. :D

Nope, not any more. Use to though. Lived five miles from the nearest place you could buy a quart of milk or gallon of gas, ten from the nearest FD, supermarket, PO, or bank for the first few years after I escaped from Long Island.

Where I live now is suburban/rural, but we do see deer and rabbits on the lawn fairly often and at least one bear has been spotted raiding the dumpsters after a hard winter. No tigers though, just an occasional bobcat.

We have strip malls and big box stores, fast food joints, car dealerships and used car lots, but there's also a small dairy farm a mile down the road and another farm that raises buffalo for meat a few miles further away. Had a steak from them just the other day.

Aside from the large animals, the most noticeable difference between here and, say Setauket or Port Jeff the last time I was there, 25 to 30 years ago, is traffic. Can't recall sitting through more than one red at a traffic light, or more than 30 seconds at a stop sign or pulling out of a parking lot, at least not on my side of the river.

Most important, there is very little violent crime in my town and virtually all of the little which does occur is either domestic violence or the weapon is an automobile and the perp is a drunk.

Don't tell me you lived in Port Jeff all those years ago Paul....Escaped on the Ferry...did you?....Doc :D

No, lived on the north shore of Nassau 36 years, escaped over the TNB. :D Did visit Suffolk a fair bit once I started driving. Mostly for pleasure, but did work there for a while, as a driving instructor for a school in Deer Park. :eek:

Attended SUNY Stony Brook for a while. Only a few buildings then, they were still building it. I'm sure I would not recognize it, then again probably wouldn't recognize a lot of places on the Island.

Had friends in Huntington Station, E. Northport, Setauket, Old Field, Coram, Bay Shore, and a bunch of other places. Knew the nice, scenic, areas to take my mom for a drive and the places like Wyandanch, C. I., and Brentwood, that were best avoided.

Club I belonged to was in South Shore League and some of the clubs in our division were out there, so I shot quite a few indoor gallery matches there. Shot some outdoor 2700 matches at the old Brookhaven town range. Hunted quite a bit at the Co-op area in Ridge. Surf cast both on the north shore and south, fished party and charter boats out of Captree and Montauk.

Raced motorcycles at Westhampton for about five years and at a couple other scrambles tracks out there that didn't last long.

Suffolk was growing all the time I was there, imagine it's grown a good bit more in the last 25 years. FWIW, right now Suffolk has almost 1.5 million people in about 900sq miles. Here in Rensselaer, we have 150k in 600.

Yep...Been on the Island 50 something years now...It has changed a lot...originally from the South Shore Nassau but I have spent the last 25 years on the North Shore Suffolk....I think about moving away from time to time cause the cost of living as you know is astronomical....but where ever I go, for some crazy reason, I can't wait to get home...Doc :D

TrojanDonkey wrote:I carry one form of pistol 90%+ of the time.Im 99.99% sure I will never need it.I also know most of the time cops don't/can't stop rapes,assaults and murders.They typically investigate a violent crime after it has happened. NO FAULT OF THEIRS.They are only human and can't be everywhere.I want a pistol as an option.I would rather have it and not need it instead of need it and not have it.I have been shooting hanguns for 25 years and have had my CCW permit since the late 1990s. I unfortunately had a member of my family victimized when I was a child and she was unable to do anything about it. A gun would have really evened the odds IMHO. I COULD kill a bad person to protect myself or a decent person being hurt by a bad person.I also think a gun is much better than a knife for most people in a self defense situation.I have no doubt a knife is better than nothing and it is a tool too.It is legal in more areas but I think it is harder emotionally stabbing/cutting an opponent versus just shooting them.I don't want to hurt anybody and refuse to BE HURT by anybody if possible.

An outstanding post, Sir!

The Deacon wrote:. Knew the nice, scenic, areas to take my mom for a drive and the places like Wyandanch, C. I., and Brentwood, that were best avoided.

Idk when you left LI, but Wyandanch and Brentwood are such ****holes now it's not even funny. I live about 10 minutes from Brentwood and I drive through there on occasion. Lets say that Im not totally at ease when Im there... Lol :cool:

Edit: I am referring to the streets and general public environments by the way.

FissionMailed wrote:Idk when you left LI, but Wyandanch and Brentwood are such ****holes now it's not even funny. I live about 10 minutes from Brentwood and I drive through there on occasion. Lets say that Im not totally at ease when Im there... Lol :cool:

Edit: I am referring to the streets and general public environments by the way.

Wyandanch was a "check your gas before driving through,windows up, doors locked, drive on a rim if you get a flat" kind of place from at least 1970. Brentwood was home to the Breed MC among other interesting people. Central Islip was, perhaps, the best of the three, but that's not really saying much. All were places you'd feel more comfortable with a carry permit. They were fairly easy to avoid, except when I was working for a driving school in Deer Park that had students in all three. Thought maybe one or all of them might have "gentrified" by now, given the population grown and real estate prices down there, sounds like I may have thought wrong.

People should be able to do what they want as long as it isn't infringing on another persons liberties. This sounds completely counter-logic, but in my perfect world every responsible adult would carry a gun. Opposed to many, I actually feel better knowing those around me are carrying. And let me tell you, if I was going to commit a crime, I'd think twice knowing 7/10 people around that area are carrying.

"An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlein

EVERYONE should know how to correctly and safely operate a firearm (should be taught at a young age)... even if you never intend on carrying one or going shooting. You never know what situation you may find yourself in where you need to know how to properly use it. In the right hands a gun is no more deadly or unsafe than a knife, a pencil, a hammer or even a car. Used properly and safely, there are no dangers to any of these instruments. A gun is an inanimate object, it doesn't just magically go off. People kill people, guns don't kill people.

Should everyone carry a gun? Of course not, but what really kills me is when people who aren't responsible enough to carry tell those that are, they shouldn't carry. Don't tell me that I can't do something because you don't feel confident to do it yourself, that shows very low character.

I carry every day.
Either a Glock 29 or a Glock 19 (both 9mm). I've put a lot of practice and training into using them.

Fortunately, my job got me a lot of my training, but I also sought some out on my own.

Jimd wrote:I carry every day.
Either a Glock 29 or a Glock 19 (both 9mm). I've put a lot of practice and training into using them.

Fortunately, my job got me a lot of my training, but I also sought some out on my own.

Jim, you have a typo there. The 29 is a 10mm, and I believe, from previous posts, that you have a 26 in 9mm. I don't have any of the 10mm Glocks. In fact, the only 10mm handgun I currently have is a Colt Delta Elite Model 1911.

As for what I generally carry on duty, it is usually a Glock 21 in .45 ACP or a Sig Sauer P229 in .40. Lately, however, I have been issued a Glock 23 in .40 (the .40 version of Jim's 19) on a trial basis, and, so far, I like it.

KaliGman wrote:Jim, you have a typo there. The 29 is a 10mm, and I believe, from previous posts, that you have a 26 in 9mm. I don't have any of the 10mm Glocks. In fact, the only 10mm handgun I currently have is a Colt Delta Elite Model 1911.

Very few people at all have a 10mm, Glock or not.

Sad but true... the first pistol I ever really lusted after was a Bren Ten. To be fair, I watched more Miami Vice reruns than was probably healthy when I was a kid.

The Bren Ten is being reintroduced. Manufactured by Vltor. News postings at: http://vltor.wordpress.com/

I know, read an article about it a while back in some gun magazine. But, like Sonny Crockett, I've moved on. I'm more of a wheel gun guy these days. Plus, they've been talking about that for years now. I remember reading about it right after I got out of basic training in '08... so at least two years, maybe more. Who knows when it'll actually hit the shelves. Maybe when it does, I'll see it and the old yearning will come back. Until then, I managed to hunt down a Pre 94 S&W Model 66 that hadn't been shot to death while I was on leave a few months ago... I'll pass the time with that. 10mm is a neat round and all, but it's got nothing on .357 mag :) .

I'll b surprised if the new version does get manufactured. The company does seem serious and intent on the project though.

I unfortunately am not allowed to carry a firearm or any sort of device for self defense. In Canada you may not prepare to defend yourself but if you are in a situation where your person is threatened then you may defend yourself.

The rules are bit crazy here. For instance you cannot carry pepper spray for self defense against a deranged human but you can carry it for defense against a bear in the woods. If you are carrying it for bear defense and a deranged human happens upon you then you may use the pepper spray as self defense.

*Cho* wrote:besides not having my liscence yet, in Canada it is illegal to carry a hand gun any where besides directly to and from the range and home. Unless of course you are an officer, security guard etc and have authorization to carry.

Actually that's sort of an old wives tale regarding going strictly from home to range and back with no side trips that I too believed until I got my restricted PAL. Both of my instructors said it just was not true. The other parts are true but a security guard must be on duty and in uniform to carry. I believe the same is for a LEO as well.

There's no time like the present to get your license. It's not too expensive, takes two full days for the classroom training and tests or if you feel confident you can just pay to write both tests. I recommend taking the classroom as a good portion is on firearm safety.

A good site for info is http://canadacarry.org/forums/ where other people believe it's not a crime to defend yourself and family in Canada.

angusW wrote:I unfortunately am not allowed to carry a firearm or any sort of device for self defense. In Canada you may not prepare to defend yourself but if you are in a situation where your person is threatened then you may defend yourself.

That sounds like it is bases on British law - the same is true here, which I find really unfair. A law-abiding citizen is not able to take any steps to prepare for defense by arming themselves ... but an attacker obviously prepares for attack ... which has the advantage? :rolleyes: