Re: Yojimbo Love?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:29 pm
The Yojimbo 1 was made in black and blue, as far as I know.ncspyderfan wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 8:15 pmI watched a video where Mike said he wanted to make the original yojimbo 1 in a denim blue. I’d say just make that happen. Denim blue micarta with stonewashed blade and clip would be perfect. I like the blade and ergonomics and think that denim micarta and stonewashed would fit it well.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....sal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:32 amTime and use is usually what refines a design to warrant an "upgrade". Mike had a lot of time between the Yo and the Yo 2 to see what he would change. I will say that Mike is always working on designs, and I don't want to say more than that. But as mentioned, what would you want to see in a "3" version?
sal
If I remember back that far correctly, part of the Yo2's changes were to make it more utilitarian and not just for SD, the thinking being you end up using the knife you're carrying every day. From that standpoint, dropping the steel level probably doesn't make sense.James Y wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:22 amSince the Yojimbo 2 and the Yojumbo is primarily a self-defense design, TBH, the blade steel doesn’t really matter all that much for that particular purpose; it just needs to be able to serve its purpose one time, then it will be taken into evidence. It could be 8cr13mov.
Blade Steel can make a difference if the knife will be used in a utilitarian manner, however.
Jim
phaust wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:18 amIf I remember back that far correctly, part of the Yo2's changes were to make it more utilitarian and not just for SD, the thinking being you end up using the knife you're carrying every day. From that standpoint, dropping the steel level probably doesn't make sense.James Y wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:22 amSince the Yojimbo 2 and the Yojumbo is primarily a self-defense design, TBH, the blade steel doesn’t really matter all that much for that particular purpose; it just needs to be able to serve its purpose one time, then it will be taken into evidence. It could be 8cr13mov.
Blade Steel can make a difference if the knife will be used in a utilitarian manner, however.
Jim
Don't think there have been any comp locks coming out of China production yet either, so that would add a bit of complication.
My mistake. Gotcha, yeah, definitely makes sense to me, too.James Y wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:23 amphaust wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:18 amIf I remember back that far correctly, part of the Yo2's changes were to make it more utilitarian and not just for SD, the thinking being you end up using the knife you're carrying every day. From that standpoint, dropping the steel level probably doesn't make sense.James Y wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:22 amSince the Yojimbo 2 and the Yojumbo is primarily a self-defense design, TBH, the blade steel doesn’t really matter all that much for that particular purpose; it just needs to be able to serve its purpose one time, then it will be taken into evidence. It could be 8cr13mov.
Blade Steel can make a difference if the knife will be used in a utilitarian manner, however.
Jim
Don't think there have been any comp locks coming out of China production yet either, so that would add a bit of complication.
Yes, I wasn’t seriously saying that the Yojimbo 2 should be made in China with 8cr. Nor would I want it to be. Just saying that, for strictly SD purposes, it doesn’t need to be a high-end steel.
For utility purposes, S30V is great. With the Yo2’s thin and narrow tip, S45VN would probably be a bit better, adding a *little* bit of durability (possibly a little less chip-prone), if that were an issue.
Jim
Jim has a fevah and is suffering from delerium, pay no attention to him spec writers. :oJames Y wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:23 amphaust wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 9:18 amIf I remember back that far correctly, part of the Yo2's changes were to make it more utilitarian and not just for SD, the thinking being you end up using the knife you're carrying every day. From that standpoint, dropping the steel level probably doesn't make sense.James Y wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 8:22 amSince the Yojimbo 2 and the Yojumbo is primarily a self-defense design, TBH, the blade steel doesn’t really matter all that much for that particular purpose; it just needs to be able to serve its purpose one time, then it will be taken into evidence. It could be 8cr13mov.
Blade Steel can make a difference if the knife will be used in a utilitarian manner, however.
Jim
Don't think there have been any comp locks coming out of China production yet either, so that would add a bit of complication.
Yes, I wasn’t seriously saying that the Yojimbo 2 should be made in China with 8cr. Nor would I want it to be. Just saying that, for strictly SD purposes, it doesn’t need to be a high-end steel.
For utility purposes, S30V is great. With the Yo2’s thin and narrow tip, S45VN would probably be a bit better, adding a *little* bit of durability (possibly a little less chip-prone), if that were an issue.
Jim
Mike, i just recently contacted the sfo regarding black clip replacements for a number of knives, including the C81bk used on the Yojimbo 2, Candi laid it all out for me. Also; Thank you for the sober, ergonomic masterpiece- it gives me a boost every time i use it. You've created something meaningful *bows to your mastery*Michael Janich wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:57 amHey, Cheddarnut:
If you prefer a black clip, you can order a black replacement clip for a Para Military 2. I purposely used the Para 2 clip on the Yojimbo 2 so it would be compatible with all Spyderco and aftermarket clips made for that knife.
Stay safe,
Mike
Thanks Sal and Mike for surprising me with my #1 wish for the Yojimbo series.vivi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:38 pmSal, there are three things I would like to see happen to the Yojimbo series.sal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:32 amTime and use is usually what refines a design to warrant an "upgrade". Mike had a lot of time between the Yo and the Yo 2 to see what he would change. I will say that Mike is always working on designs, and I don't want to say more than that. But as mentioned, what would you want to see in a "3" version?
sal
1. XL version. I'm not limited to a certain blade length where I live.
2. Different lock. I have much more confidence EDCing backlocks and CBBL.
3. Change the thumb placement. The thumb rest feels just a bit too forward. If it could be shifted back by about 2.5mm I think that would give a more ergonomic experience during cutting tasks, whether they are utility or not.
I don't expect any of these changes to align with Mr. Janich's vision for his design, but since you asked for input I wanted to offer mine.
I owned both Yojimbos and the Ronin 2, and currently only the Ronin remains in my collection. I like the extra blade length and the blade steel used on the Ronin 2, and there's no chance of it accidentally opening :)