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Is the new stretch 2 frn linerless?

cangokaw wrote:Is the new stretch 2 frn linerless?

No, it still has steel liners.
First evidence is the blade length/weight ratio, 3.45" to 3.7 oz, that looks very comparable to Endura 4's 3.75" to 3.6 oz, which has nested steel liners. Plus Stretch does have a wider blade, which makes sense for a tiny bit of extra weight.
Second, from the GPK video, we can see here there are two layers clearly not homogeneous as the FRN handle.

Only viable explanation that I can think of is steel liners.

funghiman wrote:

cangokaw wrote:Is the new stretch 2 frn linerless?

No, it still has steel liners.
First evidence is the blade length/weight ratio, 3.45" to 3.7 oz, that looks very comparable to Endura 4's 3.75" to 3.6 oz, which has nested steel liners. Plus Stretch does have a wider blade, which makes sense for a tiny bit of extra weight.
Second, from the GPK video, we can see here there are two layers clearly not homogeneous as the FRN handle.

Only viable explanation that I can think of is steel liners.

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is there finally jimping on the Stretch? I mean the handle.

Only thing I hate about Spydercos, and which is partly why I like the Native and Manix so much, is the lack of jimping. Need more jimping.

tripscheck'em wrote:is there finally jimping on the Stretch? I mean the handle.

Only thing I hate about Spydercos, and which is partly why I like the Native and Manix so much, is the lack of jimping. Need more jimping.

I don't see any in the video. And I don't think there's need for any, with the already perfect ergo of a Stretch. Excessive jimping on the handle only create potential hot spots. Just IMO though.

At some dealers now (post #1 updated):

• ParaMilitary2 CPM-S30V SpyderEdge Black G-10 (USA)
• Para3 CPM-S30V ComboEdge Black G-10 (USA)
• Stretch2 VG-10 Lightweight Black FRN (Japan)
• Manbug H-1 SpyderEdge Sheepsfoot Yellow FRN (Japan)

funghiman wrote:

cangokaw wrote:Is the new stretch 2 frn linerless?

No, it still has steel liners.
First evidence is the blade length/weight ratio, 3.45" to 3.7 oz, that looks very comparable to Endura 4's 3.75" to 3.6 oz, which has nested steel liners. Plus Stretch does have a wider blade, which makes sense for a tiny bit of extra weight.
Second, from the GPK video, we can see here there are two layers clearly not homogeneous as the FRN handle.

Only viable explanation that I can think of is steel liners.

Possibly threaded steel inserts for the clip screws, but I think you're right based on the weight.

yes has linners, got confirmed by spyderco directly.
i was confused because no mention of liners in 2017 catalog.

Why are only half of Spydercos pointy these days? Drives me crazy having to take all my knives to a belt sander to give them tips. I was planning to buy an H1 Manbug but that 90 degree angle tip....why? On a big knife I get it, you might be using it on aboat and drop it and don't want to stab yourself (That's never going to apply to me, I just want a good tip...but it makes sense to me). But a keychain knife? Just give it a useful tip. 95% of what keychain knives are for is poking something open with the tip.

Vivi wrote:Why are only half of Spydercos pointy these days? Drives me crazy having to take all my knives to a belt sander to give them tips. I was planning to buy an H1 Manbug but that 90 degree angle tip....why? On a big knife I get it, you might be using it on aboat and drop it and don't want to stab yourself (That's never going to apply to me, I just want a good tip...but it makes sense to me). But a keychain knife? Just give it a useful tip. 95% of what keychain knives are for is poking something open with the tip.

Complete agreement. A Wharn, Hawkbill, or Reverse S would have been exquisite

No Salt2 in all Black?

Vivi wrote:Why are only half of Spydercos pointy these days? Drives me crazy having to take all my knives to a belt sander to give them tips. I was planning to buy an H1 Manbug but that 90 degree angle tip....why? On a big knife I get it, you might be using it on aboat and drop it and don't want to stab yourself (That's never going to apply to me, I just want a good tip...but it makes sense to me). But a keychain knife? Just give it a useful tip. 95% of what keychain knives are for is poking something open with the tip.

I'm adding the H1 Manbug to the two other Spyderco on my list for this year.

Not all knives are for all people thankfully. I gave my mom a Ladybuy a number of years ago, and despite the name, this would make a great gift for a lady as well.

Anyone have a idea when the raffir noble chap is coming? I'm patiently awaiting this beauty after I just found out I'm #1 in line on the preorder :D

At dealers now (post #1 updated):

• Native5 Maxamet Lightweight Stone Gray FRCP (USA)
• Manix2 CPM-S30V BackLock Black G-10 (USA)
• Military CPM-M4 Natural G-10 BladeHQ (USA)

twinboysdad wrote:

Vivi wrote:Why are only half of Spydercos pointy these days? Drives me crazy having to take all my knives to a belt sander to give them tips. I was planning to buy an H1 Manbug but that 90 degree angle tip....why? On a big knife I get it, you might be using it on aboat and drop it and don't want to stab yourself (That's never going to apply to me, I just want a good tip...but it makes sense to me). But a keychain knife? Just give it a useful tip. 95% of what keychain knives are for is poking something open with the tip.

Complete agreement. A Wharn, Hawkbill, or Reverse S would have been exquisite

I'm going to order a ladybug hawkbill instead I'm thinking. That or the regular blade shape, its pretty pointy compared to the manbug.

Any word on when the new chaparral is dropping?

Apparently the left handed PM2 and QBall are being released next. Collector club knives are shipping.

JerryIsAlive wrote:Any word on when the new chaparral is dropping?

I'm hoping soon, I have a preorder in and it looks like gp has some actual pictures up of it now instead of just the proto pics...

Delica 4 Foliage Green FRN & Damascus blade just dropped today.

Vivi wrote:Why are only half of Spydercos pointy these days? Drives me crazy having to take all my knives to a belt sander to give them tips. I was planning to buy an H1 Manbug but that 90 degree angle tip....why? On a big knife I get it, you might be using it on aboat and drop it and don't want to stab yourself (That's never going to apply to me, I just want a good tip...but it makes sense to me). But a keychain knife? Just give it a useful tip. 95% of what keychain knives are for is poking something open with the tip.

I'm guessing the idea is that it's a mini rescue blade, so the tip is a safety thing. Personally I don't mind having to reshape tips because I can make them exactly how I want.

At first I didn't either, but after 3 pacific salts, an endura 4, a Swick 3, Spin etc., I'm done regrinding tips. I don't want to have to reprofile the edge, regrind the tip and loc-tite the pivot of every Spyderco I buy, which is how its been lately.