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canis,
i am trying to pm you. it seems to not be working? you get the pm about the dodo?

SmoothOne25 wrote:canis,
i am trying to pm you. it seems to not be working? you get the pm about the dodo?

Yeah, I replied.

Canis

Maybe I picked the wrong name...

Please don't associate SpydieGuys with SpydieTalk - two completely different people/sites. I can personally guarantee no etching on my blades too!

smikesmith3 wrote:Maybe I picked the wrong name...

Please don't associate SpydieGuys with SpydieTalk - two completely different people/sites. I can personally guarantee no etching on my blades too!

lol, we all know the difference.
you sell knives now, as per your email i just got the other day. (i am along established member of ST :) ) adverstisng is kind of verboten if the site belongs to you. you own spydietalk?

Spider bite wrote:I left Spydie Guys neg. feedback due to the fact the two blades they sent me had there name etched on the blade and it did not picture this in any of the pics they had on the listing. I would not of bought them if i knew this. After a bunch of emails with no response from them I left them negative feedback. Now they wont let me bid on there items. Just a heads up.

JspyEDC wrote:....

Maybe it's just me, but this thread seemed to imply from the start that we etch ALL the knives we sell including Spyderco's with an advertising message in a clandestine-like manner. ....

Seems to me that the OP was implying what he said and you were inferring this message.

If the product description/picture did not match the product I can see how it could confuse the buyer. There is no reason to be upset by the reaction from the forum. In fact, about half-way down your response I said, "oh that makes perfect sense!"...then I kept reading.

Ultimately the overall tone of the response was much more bitter than the original concern. People have misunderstandings all the time and it's how we communicate and amend those misunderstandings that defines us as business people.

I think your marketing/PR person needs to post for you Jess. I don't mean this in a smarmy way but think you would sell more products by distancing your emotions a bit.

Ex:

"I'm terribly sorry if there was a misunderstanding. My ad was incorrect and I would be more than happy to accept a return with full refund upon inspection of the products. I had no intention of this and pride myself on integrity. The Spyderco community is very important to me."

This would have saved potential business from random passerby's and current loyalists.

See you next month.



PS: "(Insert Etching)"

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Lol blerv :p
if he would just apoligize and set the record straight instead of ignoring the complaints/suggestions about his business

he didnt do much to instill confidence in his company-came across as a -well you can read it yourself

JspyEDC wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but this thread seemed to imply from the start that we etch ALL the knives we sell including Spyderco's with an advertising message in a clandestine-like manner. And from the initial responses to this thread that seemed to be the way it was interpreted. The pic supplied also just showed the etching and not the entire knife. Hmmmmmmm.

(insert etching)

SpydieGuys.com

Would you like me to take a pic of the entire knife for you? Will that make you reply to your ebay emails next time?

Blerv wrote:
If the product description/picture did not match the product I can see how it could confuse the buyer. There is no reason to be upset by the reaction from the forum. In fact, about half-way down your response I said, "oh that makes perfect sense!"...then I kept reading.


Ex:

"I'm terribly sorry if there was a misunderstanding. My ad was incorrect and I would be more than happy to accept a return with full refund upon inspection of the products. I had no intention of this and pride myself on integrity. The Spyderco community is very important to me."

This would have saved potential business from random passerby's and current loyalists.

See you next month.

PS: "(Insert Etching)"

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Now we know he does not concern him self with these kind of business practices but this is exactly what I thought would happen when I emaild his business. I could get my money back or exchange the item. I am really surprised he didnt bring this up in his post. :confused: I really hate when I spend my hard earned money with a company only to feel duped in the end. Thanks

JspyEDC wrote:The knife mentioned in this thread, and the only knife that's etched with "SpydieGuys.com" is the blue frn Blade-Tech Mouse Lite. There were 1,000 made and spydieguys has the exclusive on the 1,000 made in the blue color. We got them delivered 250 pieces at a time. The third batch (and 4th and final) was etched at the factory without our knowledge until mentioned by a buyer some time after delivering over 50 or so pieces with the etching. We do not have any remaining without the etching. We do need to change the listing description, thanks for the heads up.

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SpydieGuys.com

This is a LIE and WRONG. The TWO KNIVES, Blue and Green FRN were BOTH etched I bought from Spidie Guys. I will take a pic if you like.

JspyEDC wrote:The knife mentioned in this thread, and the only knife that's etched with "SpydieGuys.com" is the blue frn Blade-Tech Mouse Lite. There were 1,000 made and spydieguys has the exclusive on the 1,000 made in the blue color. We got them delivered 250 pieces at a time. The third batch (and 4th and final) was etched at the factory without our knowledge until mentioned by a buyer some time after delivering over 50 or so pieces with the etching. We do not have any remaining without the etching. We do need to change the listing description, thanks for the heads up.


The pic supplied also just showed the etching and not the entire knife. Hmmmmmmm.


(insert etching)

SpydieGuys.com

HMMMMMMM! Here is the whole knife pic. Take a look, So much for "The knife mentioned in this thread, and the only knife that's etched with "SpydieGuys.com" is the blue frn Blade-Tech Mouse Lite" How did I get a green as well. Shady!

Blerv wrote:Ultimately the overall tone of the response was much more bitter than the original concern. People have misunderstandings all the time and it's how we communicate and amend those misunderstandings that defines us as business people.

I think your marketing/PR person needs to post for you Jess. I don't mean this in a smarmy way but think you would sell more products by distancing your emotions a bit.

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I agree, sometimes it is best to say little. The more some people talk, the more likely they are to say something they shouldn't have. Perhaps trying to defend your business practices and mistakes is not really having the desired effect.

For the record I do not do business with this company . Price is an issue and his take on the Forum Native was well rather in your face , and a real turn off for me . As has been said , not happy buy elsewhere , why waste your time complaining when you can buy elsewhere and enjoy . Regards MG2

Never bought from Spydieguys and I very much doubt I will either. (Attitude/forum native)
I like to support New Graham and also Cuttleryshoppe. Besides them I love to support my fellow forumites.

I need the spydies they need the cash. It's a WIN WIN :D

take care guys
aj

Wow, jess is really gaining a lot of customers on this issue. You would think he would want to make it right and try to turn around his image on the site that probably buys the most spydies per capita. Oh well we cannot expect spyderco like CS and ethics from everyone

Spider bite wrote:HMMMMMMM! Here is the whole knife pic. Take a look, So much for "The knife mentioned in this thread, and the only knife that's etched with "SpydieGuys.com" is the blue frn Blade-Tech Mouse Lite" How did I get a green as well. Shady!

Wait to go spydieguys! Deliver crap and then make yourself look like a liar or just a guy that has no clue as to what product his company is selling, then pass the buck of you're company blowing off emails. I was not fully fully turned off by spydieguys but the response and bs sealed the deal. I WILL NEVER EVER BUY FROM THEM! Get your crap together spydieguys. You're supposed to be running a business and solving problems not passing the buck. And this on top of you listing items you don't have yet and auctioning off knives that you should be selling on preorder at a fair price.

Forum knife issue aside, is the etching just restricted to a couple of coloured Blade-Tech mice? If so what's the issue from a Spyderco perspective? :confused:

Sam Vimes wrote:Forum knife issue aside, is the etching just restricted to a couple of coloured Blade-Tech mice? If so what's the issue from a Spyderco perspective? :confused:

Well frankly they suck :p

I have seen a few of their auctions for knives with that on the blade.You could see it in pics though.I never had a problem with them with a few purchases I made or not even much of a problem with them selling the forum knife.I did have a problem with the BS rant he put up on you tube.That keeps me from ever buying from them again.

Hey dudes, apart from the fact that they are called Spydieguys, there isn't any reaason why we should keep on about this here. I found out that Blade tech is not Spyderco. This forum is Sal's and we shouldn't bring our disputes here. I have had other problems with SG in the past and I think that all that has had to be said has been.
This should go to other forums where there is a place for this. Jess has already made his appearance and from the looks of things, he is not going to change his ways.

I disagree. The issue should be brought up here so fellow knife brothers can be made aware of the situation and what they might be getting themselves into. I don't know about you, but I don't want to see any fellow forumites get taken for a ride. Keeping the issue hidden and in the dark is a dis-service to other enthusiasts. If, after reading through the posts here, someone still chooses to shop there then that is their choice but personally, I would appreciate the information to help me make an educated and informed decision.