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I'll pass as PM 2 models get little pocket time from me. A Para 3 lightweight would have me for sure.

I swear this is like Deja Vu, having just recently bought both a 204P and a M390 PM2, this one is probably a pass for me but I swear I was going to start a post yesterday at work about possibly making a Wharncliffe PM2 but just never got around to posting it.

I agree with bearfacedkiller, I bet it’s a cutting machine! Just needs to be not so generic, we’re all spoiled or at least I am!

I'm still very curious if that $154.95 "Millie.PM2.P3 Club Flight Tag" that was in stk, for a few hours earlier, included the Wharnie PM2. I didn't have the cajones to test that theory.
I'm going to grab one Friday and do some grinding on that spine. :)

Something about the spine is throwing me off. Can’t define exactly what I don’t like about it though. No worries, my opinion won’t matter much with these instantly selling out.

Cool beans!!! But, I'm likely going to pass

CG

I actually quite like the shape of the blade on this Wharncliffe! The spine isn’t a continuous curve like the Sekis and is most similar to the Canis in profile. The less round shape lessens the knife’s closed height.
A pointy, full flat grind, wharncliffe with a choil is a unique combination of traits in the current lineup as far as I know! Plus it’s a PM2 meaning it’s made in Golden.
Also just noticed it costs pretty much the same as a Yojimbo 2.

Edit: Serrations would bring this to the next level!

Cutlery Shoppe has not been shy about revealing plans for a number of variations, so you’re probably looking at a few thousand knives without even considering the possibility of multiple runs.
For myself, blade shapes being exclusive to dealers because they bought the rights and took the risk to do so, is fine. I think it’s really cool BladeHQ, CutleryShoppe, etc. are able to expand the variety of Spyderco designs beyond what we may see otherwise.

I am worried about the number of knives produced not meeting demand, though.

The closed profile it looks like a normal PM2 except with a reground tip because someone snapped off about half an inch prying something.

The open profile, the blade looks like a witches nose. LOL :D

I think the blade profile looks odd to me because of the abrupt change in angles on the spine. The transition from flat to round on the spine is too noticeable, in my opinion. Something a little more continuous and smooth would have been my preference.


Here's a quick mockup of what I would have preferred to see compared to the original. The difference is subtle.

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That is a self defense minded person's dream come true. I am not that much into detent based locks and the Para 3 would be too small for my hand, I am thinking. The Para2 is cramped. However, I do think this is an intriguing design and is actually useful.

It’s just ... meh ! That spine shape hurts my eyes.

JuPaul wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:22 pm

JMM wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:34 pm

Interesting. I agree with Wartstein, a SE version should really be made for this.

So BladeOps has the Emerson, BladeHQ has the Tanto, Cutlery Shoppe has the Wharnie.... who will drop what next?

I agree it's not the most aesthetically pleasing PM2 I've ever seen, but I wouldn't base buying it or not based on that alone, I do think I'll pass on being a early adopter, but if/when an SE model is offered, I'm SOOOO there. :D

Cheers,

John

[edit: correction]

A Hawkbill next???

I would set aside my distaste for blade exclusives if I could get a hawkbill para3 or pm2.

Spydergirl88 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:23 pm

Interesting. More interested in the Para 3 version tho

Same here, I think the blade shape will look better on a shorter platform.

I don't see much use in a long straight edge and agree, that a Para 3 would (at least to me) look more useful as one usually gets this blade shape for detailed tip work and for that a shorter blade is more practical. Other may feel differently though. I however do understand the 'witch nose' as making the blade too pointy would make the tip too easy to break (especially given that all para/military knives have a very basic full flat grind where distal taper is only regulated by the blade height and stock thickness - not a critique, just a matter of fact)

Other than a slight difference in blade shape, I wonder what function this knife offers in actual use that the Yojumbo doesn't?

jdw wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:57 am

Other than a slight difference in blade shape, I wonder what function this knife offers in actual use that the Yojumbo doesn't?

A pointy, full flat grind, wharncliffe with a choil is a unique combination of traits in the current lineup as far as I know!

...and I’d wager the tip to be stronger than both the Yojimbo 2 and regular Paramilitary 2, becasue it’s less acute than either of the formers’ profiles.

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Large Wharncliffes are very useful blades!
Aside from probably being a good self defense shape, they just give you a lot of power when cutting and are super simple to sharpen.
That said, I also think advantage in some areas of performance over knives with belly increases dramatically the shorter the blade. So the Para3 will be a really nicely sized Wharncliffe.

jdw wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:57 am

Other than a slight difference in blade shape, I wonder what function this knife offers in actual use that the Yojumbo doesn't?

Imo, this looks way less murdery than the yojimbo. That knife is pretty intimidating to non-knife people, and was designed for self-defense, whereas this looks more like a tool.

The Spyderco Canis is not amused...

I feel like in terms of construction and blade grind alone leaves the PM2 in the dust, but it's nice to see the wharnie being embraced on a popular platform. It's one of my favorite style of blades.

why are people complaining about this knife? if you don't like it, don't get it. i didn't read every comment, but the knives i'm seeing it compared to don't have finger choils. that's more than enough of a difference for some people. or maybe people just love the pm2 more than any other knife and would like it in a wharncliffe. either way, i'm sure at least 900 people will buy this knife. it's not the same as the canis. it's not the same as the yoj(i/u)mbo. it's not the same as any of the other wharncliffes offered by spyderco. you may not want it because it's close enough to something else you already have (that's why i don't want it), but that doesn't mean that it's pointless or that no one wants it. if i didn't have a sheepsfoot caribbean that i pretty much edc exclusively these days, i might look at this knife really hard, even though i do have a yojimbo already. as far as it being ugly... well, i think all spyderco knives are ugly. that's part of the appeal. they're ugly in all the right ways.

Although I’m not interested in this PM2, I don’t see it as an abomination as some others are seeing it.

Jim

JuPaul wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:22 pm

JMM wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:34 pm

Interesting. I agree with Wartstein, a SE version should really be made for this.

So BladeOps has the Emerson, BladeHQ has the Tanto, Cutlery Shoppe has the Wharnie.... who will drop what next?

I agree it's not the most aesthetically pleasing PM2 I've ever seen, but I wouldn't base buying it or not based on that alone, I do think I'll pass on being a early adopter, but if/when an SE model is offered, I'm SOOOO there. :D

Cheers,

John

[edit: correction]

A Hawkbill next???

[+1]

As long as an SE version was made too, I'd be all about it. Perhaps made from K390?

As Cutlery Shop has stated this is a first of many runs including the Para3, I wonder if we'll see a Tanto Para3 from BHQ, or Emerson Para3 from BladeOps... It sorta makes sense for both Spyderco & the shops to do since they've already done a bunch of the work it would require... Hmmmm

:D

jdw wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:57 am

Other than a slight difference in blade shape, I wonder what function this knife offers in actual use that the Yojumbo doesn't?

A choil for those who like them and maybe a preference in ergonomics. Better slicing capability. Probably slightly lighter weight.