POLL: Who´d like the Native-family to become the general "comes in both comp.lock and backlock version" - line?
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Re: POLL: Who´d like the Native-family to become the general "coming in both comp.lock and backlock version" - line?
To me they're just fine the way they are. I'd rather see new models than a bewildering array of endless variants.
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Re: POLL: Who´d like the Native-family to become the general "coming in both comp.lock and backlock version" - line?
I get what you mean and it´s a valid point!Larry_Mott wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:32 amTo me they're just fine the way they are. I'd rather see new models than a bewildering array of endless variants.
But my proposal is (exactly) not about a "bewildering array of endless variants"! But to have ONE SINGLE line of Spydies, very popular and roughly covering all size categories now, so that many people will find a model they like, combined with the (by far I guess) two favorite locktypes.
So everyone can be sure: Inside that line, each knive that comes out will be available with a lock, that most certainly one is at least ok with (cause I guess people NOT liking BOTH comp.lock and backlock are very rare).
What speaks for the Native family: Popular line up; quite "neutrally " shaped, should fit many preferences and hands (no ramp and so on); that "family" partly DOES come already in the two main Spydie locktypes.
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
Re: POLL: Who´d like the Native-family to become the general "coming in both comp.lock and backlock version" - line?
Interesting to see for me concerning this poll is, how many people would like the Native-family-members coming ONLY in a backlockversion, so NO comp.lock versions at all (even not Lil Native and Shaman). As of right now 1/3 of voters feel that way . exactly as much as want to see EACH model come in BOTH locks, and about 3.5 times MORE people than want to see the whole Native line come ONLY in comp.lock versions.
As said, I DEFINITELY do not want this thread to turn into another backlock vs comp.lock discussion, I am just wondering what the reasons are for that results concerning the specific question of the poll. There are of course many explanations, for example:
- Many more people generally like the backlock over the comp.lock than vice versa (which I do NOT believe)
- Specifically in the NATIVE line people prefer the backlock over the comp.lock (and the Native backlock is probably the best executed backlock even amongst Spydercos backlocks, together with the Chap´s imho)
- "Backlock-guys" feel more inclined to show their preference when there is an opportunity (so are more likely to vote in such a poll) than "comp.lock.guys" or people who have no preference here
As said, I DEFINITELY do not want this thread to turn into another backlock vs comp.lock discussion, I am just wondering what the reasons are for that results concerning the specific question of the poll. There are of course many explanations, for example:
- Many more people generally like the backlock over the comp.lock than vice versa (which I do NOT believe)
- Specifically in the NATIVE line people prefer the backlock over the comp.lock (and the Native backlock is probably the best executed backlock even amongst Spydercos backlocks, together with the Chap´s imho)
- "Backlock-guys" feel more inclined to show their preference when there is an opportunity (so are more likely to vote in such a poll) than "comp.lock.guys" or people who have no preference here
Last edited by Wartstein on Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Re: POLL: Who´d like the Native-family to become the general "coming in both comp.lock and backlock version" - line?
I get your point too buddy, i just fret what it could lead to.. When fans of other model "families" want all lock types on "their" model/sWartstein wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:53 amI get what you mean and it´s a valid point!Larry_Mott wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:32 amTo me they're just fine the way they are. I'd rather see new models than a bewildering array of endless variants.
But my proposal is (exactly) not about a "bewildering array of endless variants"! But to have ONE SINGLE line of Spydies, very popular and roughly covering all size categories now, so that many people will find a model they like, combined with the (by far I guess) two favorite locktypes.
So everyone can be sure: Inside that line, each knive that comes out will be available with a lock, that most certainly one is at least ok with (cause I guess people NOT liking BOTH comp.lock and backlock are very rare).
What speaks for the Native family: Popular line up; quite "neutrally " shaped, should fit many preferences and hands (no ramp and so on); that "family" partly DOES come already in the two main Spydie locktypes.
I don't know, i seem to always find a suitable knife in Spyderco's portfolio, the only thing i would want is more wood and micarta scales. Other than that, again i have always found out of the box models i was content with. Can't remember thinking 'gee i wished my model X was a little more like model Y'
"Life is fragile - we should take better care of each other, and ourselves - every day!"
//Eva Mott 1941 - 2019. R.I.P.
//Eva Mott 1941 - 2019. R.I.P.
Re: POLL: Who´d like the Native-family to become the general "coming in both comp.lock and backlock version" - line?
Larry_Mott wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:20 amI get your point too buddy, i just fret what it could lead to.. When fans of other model "families" want all lock types on "their" model/sWartstein wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:53 amI get what you mean and it´s a valid point!Larry_Mott wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:32 amTo me they're just fine the way they are. I'd rather see new models than a bewildering array of endless variants.
But my proposal is (exactly) not about a "bewildering array of endless variants"! But to have ONE SINGLE line of Spydies, very popular and roughly covering all size categories now, so that many people will find a model they like, combined with the (by far I guess) two favorite locktypes.
So everyone can be sure: Inside that line, each knive that comes out will be available with a lock, that most certainly one is at least ok with (cause I guess people NOT liking BOTH comp.lock and backlock are very rare).
What speaks for the Native family: Popular line up; quite "neutrally " shaped, should fit many preferences and hands (no ramp and so on); that "family" partly DOES come already in the two main Spydie locktypes.
I don't know, i seem to always find a suitable knife in Spyderco's portfolio, the only thing i would want is more wood and micarta scales. Other than that, again i have always found out of the box models i was content with. Can't remember thinking 'gee i wished my model X was a little more like model Y'
Ok... that is a concern I totally get...
/ And: YES, more Micarta!!!! :)
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)