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Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:44 pm
by steelcity16
bh49 wrote:
steelcity16 wrote: It really is too bad that the Native/Lil Native/Shaman get no love in those exclusive runs. I hope they are in the near future!
I think that it is too early to say this. Shaman and Lil Native just came out. Native5 had sprints/exclusive and variants probably more than any other Spyderco. In a worst case it is second after para2. I cannot recall any other spydie, which had production (not sprints) with three different scale materials: g10, frn and ti.
Very true, i am just impatient as I really love the native and it isnt available in mg two favorite exclusive runs...yet! I just hope we see DLC blade/hardware options for all of these going forward after how incredible that Manix is! :eek:

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:44 pm
by steelcity16
steelcity16 wrote:
bh49 wrote:
steelcity16 wrote: It really is too bad that the Native/Lil Native/Shaman get no love in those exclusive runs. I hope they are in the near future!
I think that it is too early to say this. Shaman and Lil Native just came out. Native5 had sprints/exclusive and variants probably more than any other Spyderco. In a worst case it is second after para2. I cannot recall any other spydie, which had production (not sprints) with three different scale materials: g10, frn and ti.
Very true, i am just impatient as I really love the native and it isnt available in mg two favorite exclusive runs...yet! I just hope we see DLC blade/hardware options for all of these going forward after how incredible that Manix is! :eek:
also, i was just thinking about how much i'd like a native (and lil native...and shaman) in cruwear and also in 52100/peel ply cf...and neither of those have been done and i havent heard if they are planning on doing them. those are the other 2 i am very interested in. :(

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:57 am
by mad german
I don't get the Lil Native. It's basically the exact same size as the Dragonfly. For the size, it really doesn't matter on the lock, it's a light duty type of pocketknife. I wanted to like it, but after handling it alongside my G-10 D'fly, I walked away loving my D'fly even more.

It's a dud, IMHO.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:43 pm
by twinboysdad
mad german wrote:I don't get the Lil Native. It's basically the exact same size as the Dragonfly. For the size, it really doesn't matter on the lock, it's a light duty type of pocketknife. I wanted to like it, but after handling it alongside my G-10 D'fly, I walked away loving my D'fly even more.

It's a dud, IMHO.
Agree and disagree. It has made me like my Dfly more but disagree on dud. LN is twice as robust as Dfly and that includes blade stock. It is a medium duty knife, just like a Native 5 but smaller. The Dfly is lighter duty than that. Now aske me to explain that and I will struggle but they are not the same genre to me at least.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:05 pm
by SG89
twinboysdad wrote: LN is twice as robust as Dfly and that includes blade stock. It is a medium duty knife, just like a Native 5 but smaller. The Dfly is lighter duty than that. Now aske me to explain that and I will struggle but they are not the same genre to me at least.
I agree

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:24 am
by Termite Toothpick
twinboysdad wrote: Agree and disagree. It has made me like my Dfly more but disagree on dud. LN is twice as robust as Dfly and that includes blade stock. It is a medium duty knife, just like a Native 5 but smaller. The Dfly is lighter duty than that. Now aske me to explain that and I will struggle but they are not the same genre to me at least.
I would agree as well! I still love my ZDP DF2 and G10 DF2, but this Lil' Native is so much more robust and feels like a bridge between my DF2 and my Para 3. I love this for my office carry. It has the speed and ease of use with the compression lock (in n out of pocket, one hand use) plus the fun factor of the compression lock; all in a smaller package. It's definitely not a dud...it fits into my collection/users perfectly.

Love this Lil' Native!

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:05 am
by vivi
twinboysdad wrote:
mad german wrote:I don't get the Lil Native. It's basically the exact same size as the Dragonfly. For the size, it really doesn't matter on the lock, it's a light duty type of pocketknife. I wanted to like it, but after handling it alongside my G-10 D'fly, I walked away loving my D'fly even more.

It's a dud, IMHO.
Agree and disagree. It has made me like my Dfly more but disagree on dud. LN is twice as robust as Dfly and that includes blade stock. It is a medium duty knife, just like a Native 5 but smaller. The Dfly is lighter duty than that. Now aske me to explain that and I will struggle but they are not the same genre to me at least.
What things would you cut with a lil native that you wouldnt cut with a dragonfly?

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:05 am
by steelcity16
I cant wait to try one. I love small G10 folders. I really enjoy my G10 DF2, Caly 3, Worker, and Native 5. Will be happy to add this to the family. I am going to wait until we see some sprints/exclusives though.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:42 am
by ZrowsN1s
steelcity16 wrote:I cant wait to try one. I love small G10 folders. I really enjoy my G10 DF2, Caly 3, Worker, and Native 5. Will be happy to add this to the family. I am going to wait until we see some sprints/exclusives though.
I'm really hoping the Lil Native gets the Blurple S110V treatment.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:45 pm
by twinboysdad
Vivi wrote:
twinboysdad wrote:
mad german wrote:I don't get the Lil Native. It's basically the exact same size as the Dragonfly. For the size, it really doesn't matter on the lock, it's a light duty type of pocketknife. I wanted to like it, but after handling it alongside my G-10 D'fly, I walked away loving my D'fly even more.

It's a dud, IMHO.
Agree and disagree. It has made me like my Dfly more but disagree on dud. LN is twice as robust as Dfly and that includes blade stock. It is a medium duty knife, just like a Native 5 but smaller. The Dfly is lighter duty than that. Now aske me to explain that and I will struggle but they are not the same genre to me at least.
What things would you cut with a lil native that you wouldnt cut with a dragonfly?
I knew someone would ask, and if it wasn't a member I respect I probably just wouldn't answer. Truthfully the Dfly is capable of more than I would put mine through. That said, I think heavy cuts with lateral twisting would be better suited to the Lil Native. Think heavy rubber tubing or hose. Really the Lil Native is the "gent's tank" that so many including me had clamored for. Even if the extra robustness is mostly in our heads! That said, a big hAnded chap like yourself might not get enough digital purchase anyway. Hope that answer helps explain something!

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:30 am
by JRinFL
No love from me. I struggle for a reason for me to own one and so far, I have found no reason. I'd be far more likely to try one of the blade were made of thinner stock as I have no need of a small knife with a massively overbuilt blade.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:31 am
by SG89
for me it fills the gap between df2 and para 3 perfectly. chap lw if you need thin blade and lighter weight, lil native if you need something beefier with compression lock.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:45 am
by Doc Dan
I have not bought one, yet. However, in my thinking it is a better option than the Techno for an over built little folder. I am waiting on the back lock version to try one.

It will probably never displace my Urban LW or my Chap LW for daily pocket carry, but it might have a place in my rotation.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:52 pm
by Ric
A backlock is not a compression lock.
compression locks are more fun to play with.

Dfly is a useful small lightweight knife.
Lil native is a big knife in a smaller package.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:53 pm
by steelcity16
I'm really trying hard to resist this one. Wanted to wait for a sprint, but may need to get the base version now to check out!

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:42 am
by curlyhairedboy
I'm pretty happy with the one I got for my Dad, but for me, I'll wait for a sprint. I'm not a fan of the blade finish, plus I have the Dice and K390 urban that cover that blade length.

DLC would be extra nice!

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:10 am
by MichaelScott
Even though I have had wire clip issues with my Dragonfly knives (which may indeed have been of my own making, but that’s still a mystery), for my needs and preferences the Dragonfly is the one I would have if I could have only one Spyderco. It’s ergonomics suit me perfectly (6’ 2”, 215, Hand size large), the blade steel is fine and thin, the leaf shape is all around good and it has a sharp point.
While some may want and appreciate a more robust “little knife” the Lil’ Native has no attributes to displace the Dragonfly for my uses.

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:34 pm
by curlyhairedboy
Any word on when the dlc versions will drop?

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:43 pm
by SG89
I hope the dlc lil native will also have a black clip... would be so badazz

Re: No love for the Lil Native?

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:45 pm
by Bill1170
Vivi wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:41 pm
I don't have love for lil anything. It's the opposite of what I want :D
Vivi needs a Military XL. Plenty of real estate for those big mitts. :p