The blade length of the Paramilitary 2 could be increased

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In before someone reminds you guys how evil and demented you all are, picking on the poor saint :p
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Mikael Andersson wrote:
jabba359 wrote:Mikael, aren't you Swedish? How are the knife and gun laws over there?
Yes I am.

If you have use of a knife in your work then you are allowed to carry one but a big bowie knife would not be allowed in dense populated areas but otherwise no hassle over blade lengths.

As for gun laws.. for hunting you need to have done some courses to show that you know what you are doing and for pistols you need to first shoot gold with a .22 and then with a 9mm so terrible shooters are not allowed in Sweden. :p

So when are you going to show some spine against your unjustly harsh...draconian, even, laws?
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PM2 length is perfect as it is now. But, however, would anyone be interested in an alternative grind, such sabre one?

I post a selfie with my PM2 in Athabasca Glacier, Columbia Icefields, Alberta, Canada.
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josemfuente wrote:PM2 length is perfect as it is now. But, however, would anyone be interested in an alternative grind, such sabre one?

I post a selfie with my PM2 in Athabasca Glacier, Columbia Icefields, Alberta, Canada.
FYI, You're holding that knife upside down. :p :spyder:
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remnar wrote:
josemfuente wrote:PM2 length is perfect as it is now. But, however, would anyone be interested in an alternative grind, such sabre one?

I post a selfie with my PM2 in Athabasca Glacier, Columbia Icefields, Alberta, Canada.
FYI, You're holding that knife upside down. :p :spyder:
Pssst...he's on the other side of the globe from us!
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Studey wrote:So when are you going to show some spine against your unjustly harsh...draconian, even, laws?
He already did! See my "based on a true story" reenactment on page 2 of this very thread. I'm currently negotiating with the History Channel to direct a 4 part series.
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Sharp Guy wrote:
remnar wrote:
josemfuente wrote:PM2 length is perfect as it is now. But, however, would anyone be interested in an alternative grind, such sabre one?

I post a selfie with my PM2 in Athabasca Glacier, Columbia Icefields, Alberta, Canada.
FYI, You're holding that knife upside down. :p :spyder:
Pssst...he's on the other side of the globe from us!
Oh, well now I feel stupid. :o
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Re: The blade length of the Paramilitary 2 could be increased

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alan007 wrote:
Skaaphaas wrote:Aesthetically, the PM2 looks a bit unbalanced when open. . . .
PM2 feels really balanced to the hand when open though. Personally I don't see the point in adding to the blade length on the PM2. If you need a longer blade there are other Spyderco knives with longer blades. :)
Actually the balance of the knife would be improved and the blade to handle ratio would be optimized.
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Mikael Andersson wrote:
alan007 wrote:
Skaaphaas wrote:Aesthetically, the PM2 looks a bit unbalanced when open. . . .
PM2 feels really balanced to the hand when open though. Personally I don't see the point in adding to the blade length on the PM2. If you need a longer blade there are other Spyderco knives with longer blades. :)
Actually the balance of the knife would be improved and the blade to handle ratio would be optimized.
Dang, who knew 1.9mm could be so important?!?
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awa54 wrote:
Mikael Andersson wrote:
alan007 wrote:
Skaaphaas wrote:Aesthetically, the PM2 looks a bit unbalanced when open. . . .
PM2 feels really balanced to the hand when open though. Personally I don't see the point in adding to the blade length on the PM2. If you need a longer blade there are other Spyderco knives with longer blades. :)
Actually the balance of the knife would be improved and the blade to handle ratio would be optimized.
Dang, who knew 1.9mm could be so important?!?
Oh David!! This one is just too easy to pass up.....that's what she said!!!

Also.....I'm pretty sure our friend Mr Anderson would get off this topic if Sal would just make him a Para 2 with a pink blade!! Is that asking for so much?
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awa54 wrote:
Mikael Andersson wrote:
alan007 wrote:
Skaaphaas wrote:Aesthetically, the PM2 looks a bit unbalanced when open. . . .
PM2 feels really balanced to the hand when open though. Personally I don't see the point in adding to the blade length on the PM2. If you need a longer blade there are other Spyderco knives with longer blades. :)
Actually the balance of the knife would be improved and the blade to handle ratio would be optimized.
Dang, who knew 1.9mm could be so important?!?
Hey, that's a whole 2.2% improvement, man- that's extra cutting performance you can take to the bank.....

But we have factored in the potential weight increase and how that might turn people off by pushing the all-up mass beyond an acceptable and not-at-all arbitrary point?

Oh, curse you laws of nature: what you give in extra steel on the blade length, you cruelly take away by adding mass on my trouser pocket!....The friction of my belt was at it's very limit with a 3.48" bladed PM2 but the 3.5" bladed PM2 has dragged them to my ankles! Fie I say! A pox on that last 2.2% of extra steel that has exposed my underwear to the unforgiving breeze and unhappy stares of the public! ;)
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But demon you fail to see that the balance would be improved. Balance. Improved.
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tvenuto wrote:But demon you fail to see that the balance would be improved. Balance. Improved.
2.2% improved- no less. :)
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Mikael Andersson wrote:
alan007 wrote:
Skaaphaas wrote:Aesthetically, the PM2 looks a bit unbalanced when open. . . .
PM2 feels really balanced to the hand when open though. Personally I don't see the point in adding to the blade length on the PM2. If you need a longer blade there are other Spyderco knives with longer blades. :)
Actually the balance of the knife would be improved and the blade to handle ratio would be optimized.
Blade to handle ratio implies that longer knife blades are always better, that is definitely not the case. I believe the blade to handle ratio nonsense was developed by someone who owns many knives but doesn't use them. The blade length should feel natural and easily controlled plus fit into the legal requirements needed for the target audience.
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If blade to handle ratio is a concern then Spyderco is not the brand for you. While they do have some models with great blade to handle ratios they do not compare favorably with most of the industry in that regard. With the large choils on many Spydies the edge to handle ratio is quite poor as well. That does not seem to be a major concern of either Spyderco or most of it's customers. I agree with Cujobob, this is mainly a concern for bench racers.
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demoncase wrote:
awa54 wrote:
Mikael Andersson wrote:
alan007 wrote:
Skaaphaas wrote:Aesthetically, the PM2 looks a bit unbalanced when open. . . .
PM2 feels really balanced to the hand when open though. Personally I don't see the point in adding to the blade length on the PM2. If you need a longer blade there are other Spyderco knives with longer blades. :)
Actually the balance of the knife would be improved and the blade to handle ratio would be optimized.
Dang, who knew 1.9mm could be so important?!?
Hey, that's a whole 2.2% improvement, man- that's extra cutting performance you can take to the bank.....

But we have factored in the potential weight increase and how that might turn people off by pushing the all-up mass beyond an acceptable and not-at-all arbitrary point?

Oh, curse you laws of nature: what you give in extra steel on the blade length, you cruelly take away by adding mass on my trouser pocket!....The friction of my belt was at it's very limit with a 3.48" bladed PM2 but the 3.5" bladed PM2 has dragged them to my ankles! Fie I say! A pox on that last 2.2% of extra steel that has exposed my underwear to the unforgiving breeze and unhappy stares of the public! ;)
You can't even get the facts straight to save your life... it's 3.438''.
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Handle to blade ratio on a scalpel is all screwed up. :rolleyes:

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For the win. ^^^ :D
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tvenuto wrote:But demon you fail to see that the balance would be improved. Balance. Improved.
I'm with Mikael and tvenuto on this one! I do however, acknowledge the valid and logical points BFK and others make, but I too believe the extra blade length will balance an otherwise unbalanced and awkward knife!

Now, having said that I also believe we are very restricted with our choice of knives in the Spyderco range with only several hundred models to choose from!

For example, I have abnormally large hands, a bit like the inflatable ones they wave at the football, but much prefer a small blade like the LadyBug! My brother has abnormally small hands, something akin to a newborn, but he prefers a large blade like the Military. We recently bought a LadyBug and a Military and simply swapped the blades! A little fiddley, but easy enough to do! Now I have a Military with a Ladybug blade which I absolutely love and he has a Ladybug with a Military blade which he loves! His only minor complaint is the blade tends to put a hole in his pocket, but his wife is a tailor, so no worries! :rolleyes:
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Bloke wrote:My brother has abnormally small hands, something akin to a newborn, but he prefers a large blade like the Military.
Is your brother currently running for office?

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