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Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:01 pm
by farnorthdan
Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:16 am
by demoncase
The ATR will be mine...to sit next to the blacked-out VG10 one in the collection
And I forsee all kindsa custom scales in the future of this model.....A nice anodized aluminium perhaps.
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:56 am
by DougC-3
elena86 wrote:SpyderEdgeForever wrote:Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?
New Endura with liner lock :eek: Did I miss something ? Holy cow !!! This would be great :spyder:
From Jaylo's Amsterdam Meet Notes thread:
demoncase wrote:Ahoy there folks:
[...]
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Delica but with an original straight-backed blade shape- This was like shaking hands with an old friend who's had a facelift- and very welcome: I want this!
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Endura- as above
[...]
I hope these make it to production. I don't guess I really need them now, but I can identify with a design like that and would like to have one of each. I hope they have a pretty large lock cutout for easy left hand closing.
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:03 am
by Igi964
Still waiting for something new. Something that we haven't seen before. Don't get me wrong return of the ATR is huge, but we know about it since Shot Show.
Amsterdam meet is so exciting for me, because of realising new, unseen designs and secret prototypes. This year Eric bring a lot of it. I know Mr. Blonde put it in alphabetical order, so Caribbean should be next:)
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:40 am
by The Deacon
farnorthdan wrote:Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.
Just a guess, but perhaps because space constraints required a flat head screw and Phillips works better with that style head than Torx or Allen because the drive slot is V shaped. Either that, or the blade in that prototype could just be a leftover from the earlier SS version.
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:19 am
by elena86
DougC-3 wrote:elena86 wrote:SpyderEdgeForever wrote:Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?
New Endura with liner lock :eek: Did I miss something ? Holy cow !!! This would be great :spyder:
From Jaylo's Amsterdam Meet Notes thread:
demoncase wrote:Ahoy there folks:
[...]
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Delica but with an original straight-backed blade shape- This was like shaking hands with an old friend who's had a facelift- and very welcome: I want this!
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Endura- as above
[...]
I hope these make it to production. I don't guess I really need them now, but I can identify with a design like that and would like to have one of each. I hope they have a pretty large lock cutout for easy left hand closing.
" original straight-backed blade shape " ? This confuses me.Does it mean it has no thumb ramp or what ?
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:04 am
by FCM415
farnorthdan wrote:Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.
What makes torx better (besides familiarity)?
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:07 am
by demoncase
elena86 wrote:DougC-3 wrote:elena86 wrote:SpyderEdgeForever wrote:Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?
New Endura with liner lock :eek: Did I miss something ? Holy cow !!! This would be great :spyder:
From Jaylo's Amsterdam Meet Notes thread:
demoncase wrote:Ahoy there folks:
[...]
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Delica but with an original straight-backed blade shape- This was like shaking hands with an old friend who's had a facelift- and very welcome: I want this!
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Endura- as above
[...]
I hope these make it to production. I don't guess I really need them now, but I can identify with a design like that and would like to have one of each. I hope they have a pretty large lock cutout for easy left hand closing.
" original straight-backed blade shape " ? This confuses me.Does it mean it has no thumb ramp or what ?
The current run of Delicas and Enduras drop the spine about 1/2" from the point.
The original ones I fell in love with are a straight spine from the thumb ramp all the way to the point:
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:50 am
by sal
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?
Hi SEF,
I will be commenting on the prototype pictures that Wouter posts. Concept models won't be discussed much.
sal
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 7:54 am
by farnorthdan
FCM415 wrote:farnorthdan wrote:Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.
What makes torx better (besides familiarity)?
Purely cosmetic friend, I just think it would look better...YMMV
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:06 am
by demoncase
farnorthdan wrote:FCM415 wrote:farnorthdan wrote:Did anyone else notice they used a Philips head screw on the hood of the ATR instead of a torx, wonder why they went with that, I thint a torx would look better. I'm definately picking one up regardless, also want that mamba, it's such a beautiful beast.
What makes torx better (besides familiarity)?
Purely cosmetic friend, I just think it would look better...YMMV
Mais non, monsieur- there is indeed an advantage to Torx over Phillips in some applications:
By design, Torx head screws resist cam-out better than Phillips head or slot head screws.[1] Where Phillips heads were designed to cause the driver to cam out, to prevent overtightening, Torx heads were designed to prevent cam-out. ...... Rather than rely on the tool to slip out of the screw head when a torque level is reached, which risks damage to the driver tip, screw head, and/or workpiece, torque-limiting driver designs achieve a desired torque consistently
From the Wikipedia article on the same....
But let's not drift any further from the subject of Wouter's fantastic pictures!

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:14 am
by Evil D
Torx have more surface area engaging the driver...this means more torque can be applied without stripping the screw. Hence the name "torx".
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:21 am
by FCM415
Cool, thanks. Especially useful in smaller applications.
Looks like cobra hood screw isn't so small, so Phillips isnt an issue in regards to function.
Edit wait it is small. ehh whatever Im ok either way.
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:38 am
by Surfingringo
demoncase wrote:elena86 wrote:DougC-3 wrote:elena86 wrote:SpyderEdgeForever wrote:Sal, what about the new Endura with liner lock? Is that still only in the "Possible Concept" stage, and you don't know if you will turn it into a regular production item yet?
New Endura with liner lock :eek: Did I miss something ? Holy cow !!! This would be great :spyder:
From Jaylo's Amsterdam Meet Notes thread:
demoncase wrote:Ahoy there folks:
[...]
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Delica but with an original straight-backed blade shape- This was like shaking hands with an old friend who's had a facelift- and very welcome: I want this!
Low Cost folder- A Liner locked Endura- as above
[...]
I hope these make it to production. I don't guess I really need them now, but I can identify with a design like that and would like to have one of each. I hope they have a pretty large lock cutout for easy left hand closing.
" original straight-backed blade shape " ? This confuses me.Does it mean it has no thumb ramp or what ?
The current run of Delicas and Enduras drop the spine about 1/2" from the point.
The original ones I fell in love with are a straight spine from the thumb ramp all the way to the point:
In other words, Marius, no regrind required!! :cool: :D
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:08 am
by Larry_Mott
Thank you for the great pics! However i am confused re. the titanium handled Cara cara being a prototype? I had one, it had an uneven blade grind though, so i passed it on.
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:14 pm
by Mr Blonde
hudsonhawk wrote:**eyes closed** mumbling:
please let the D'Allara be on the picture list, please, please, please
Come on Wouter, don't break my heart. :)
Sorry mate, the D'Allara was shown, but it's not on the list of knives I can share. That means it's likely a bit too far from actual release, compared to the prototypes I can show.
Spyderco 2016 Production Sample – Dragonfly HAP 40
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:22 pm
by Mr Blonde
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:37 pm
by swigert
Great pics of the DF2. These HAP40 blades are really great.
Spyderco 2016 Production Prototype – Bob Lum Lil’ Lum
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:01 pm
by Mr Blonde
Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:15 pm
by Bolster
Cute! But...no concern of the index finger sliding forward onto the blade with the Lil' Lum?
If you shorten the word "cute" by one letter at the end, what do you get?