[re-release] MT12P featuring Cru-Wear Release Date

Discuss Spyderco's products and history.
User avatar
JNewell
Member
Posts: 5077
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Land of the Bean and the Cod

#41

Post by JNewell »

xavierdoc wrote:In order to provide a better "key" for the epoxy, most people rough sand the surface of the tang and "dremel" score lines into the metal (and often the scale material, too.

This was my Cruwear Mule after removing the scales.

I doubt it will turn up in the second release :D
Some of you guys are a lot quicker than I am to get scales onto your Mules. :D So, I assume you sent that in...and I guess you are right about it not coming back into the wild. I suppose that if the scales weren't too roughed up, a refinish might be possible, but that seems unlikely.

Personally, I use screws...sometimes with epoxy in some of the voids in the tang, but never use epoxy by itself (because I don't trust glue alone), so have never felt the need to rough up the tang... :cool:
jackthedog
Member
Posts: 602
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:48 am

#42

Post by jackthedog »

Rockcrawler wrote:Thats gonna make it harder to eat two... Though I predict it will tend to make them sell slower...
Probably so. I am hoping it is just a bug but if it is $85, I may take a pass and wait for the Elmax Mule.
User avatar
xavierdoc
Member
Posts: 344
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:05 pm
Location: UK

#43

Post by xavierdoc »

JNewell wrote:Some of you guys are a lot quicker than I am to get scales onto your Mules. :D So, I assume you sent that in...and I guess you are right about it not coming back into the wild. I suppose that if the scales weren't too roughed up, a refinish might be possible, but that seems unlikely.

Personally, I use screws...sometimes with epoxy in some of the voids in the tang, but never use epoxy by itself (because I don't trust glue alone), so have never felt the need to rough up the tang... :cool:
I never use epoxy by itself. I always use rivetted brass rod, loveless bolts or screws.

I don't like the idea of not using epoxy as the environment under scales is ideal for corrosion. The epoxy creates a seal, even if it is redundant in securing scales to tang.
UKPK G10, UKPK Ti, Para 2CF&20CP, Stretch CF, Stretch CF conv, Manix2 M4,Endura Wave, Endura ZDP189, Pacific Salt, Captain, Gunting S30v, P'Kal, Gayle Bradley,Atlantic Salt, Spyderhawk, Crossbill, Wings slipit
Mules: CTSBD1, Super Blue, S90V, VG10, S35VN, Cos-3, M390 Fixed: Bushcraft, Warrior
datoudaw
Member
Posts: 20
Joined: Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:02 am

#44

Post by datoudaw »

Rwb1500 wrote:I'm seeing $59 in the OP, but $84 on the official page. I'm gonma be a little upset if that's the case, like can't swing $84 upset.
Not well handled mess. Bad image for Spiderco, giving an impression of trying to make up their screw up.

Two of my friends decided to buy one knife instead of two as the did before. I am going to get one only as a protest of my own way.
User avatar
xceptnl
Member
Posts: 9000
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:48 pm
Location: Tobacco Country, Virginia
Contact:

#45

Post by xceptnl »

I'm pretty sure the $84 has been on the Mule page for a while. I have come into the Mule teams quite late so I have been checking back pretty frequently there to make sure I don't miss another one. IIRC the price has been that way since at least the first of Nov. 2011. I feel certain that when they go back up for sale Friday that the prices will reflect what was stated in the OP.
Image
sal wrote: .... even today, we design a knife from the edge out!
*Landon*
User avatar
The Deacon
Member
Posts: 25717
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Upstate SC, USA
Contact:

#46

Post by The Deacon »

datoudaw wrote:Not well handled mess. Bad image for Spiderco, giving an impression of trying to make up their screw up.

Two of my friends decided to buy one knife instead of two as the did before. I am going to get one only as a protest of my own way.
Whatever floats your boat. Of course, the knives are not for sale yet, so you're jumping to conclusions if you assume the price now showing is correct. I think the prices of a number of out-of-production models got messed up recently, some are too high, some are too low. Pretty sure, for example, that the CF/S90V Military was close to $400 rather than the $221.95 now showing on its page.
Paul
My Personal Website ---- Beginners Guide to Spyderco Collecting ---- Spydiewiki
Deplorable :p
WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive!
jackthedog
Member
Posts: 602
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:48 am

#47

Post by jackthedog »

Sorry if I managed to start anything about the price. I was literally just curious if anyone else noticed/saw the same thing. As I said, I'm betting it is a fluke and the correct price will be reflected Friday.

My apologies for derailing the thread at all.
dapagco
Member
Posts: 152
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:01 pm

#48

Post by dapagco »

The price of the Mule Team 12 is 59.95.
JLS
Member
Posts: 946
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:46 am
Location: Utah

#49

Post by JLS »

Nothing like real information to stifle drama.

Thanks for the confirmation. I'll be getting 2.
42 Spyderco fixed blades and counting...
wquiles
Member
Posts: 270
Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:30 pm

#50

Post by wquiles »

JLS wrote:Thanks for the confirmation. I'll be getting 2.
Same here, buying two of them. Not only to "play" with this steel, but also as a way to support Spyderco for doing the right thing and re-releasing the knives with the proper heat treatment ;)

Will
jackthedog
Member
Posts: 602
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:48 am

#51

Post by jackthedog »

dapagco wrote:The price of the Mule Team 12 is 59.95.
Thanks, dapagco. Again, my apologies for stirring the pot at all. Certainly wasn't my intention.
User avatar
jtoler_9
Member
Posts: 909
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:38 am
Location: Utah

#52

Post by jtoler_9 »

JLS wrote:Nothing like real information to stifle drama..
LOL no fricken kidding. WHAT PRICE, grab your pitchforks. Let's start a riot and protest. WOW. What happened to patiently wait and see. To make up for those now only getting 1. I guess I will buy 3. :) That is if they let me.
User avatar
Chris_H
Member
Posts: 1222
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: FL, USA, Earth

#53

Post by Chris_H »

xavierdoc wrote:I never use epoxy by itself. I always use rivetted brass rod, loveless bolts or screws.

I don't like the idea of not using epoxy as the environment under scales is ideal for corrosion. The epoxy creates a seal, even if it is redundant in securing scales to tang.
I've used a thick bearing grease smeared onto the tang and underside of the scales to prevent moisture from accumulating under the scales. I just wipe off the excess that squeezes out from tightening everything down.

I should go pull the scales off the MT05P that I have in the kitchen to see how that is doing. Hmm...
"All your :spyder: are belong to us."
** WTC # 1032 1533 **
JLS
Member
Posts: 946
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:46 am
Location: Utah

#54

Post by JLS »

wquiles wrote:Same here, buying two of them. Not only to "play" with this steel, but also as a way to support Spyderco for doing the right thing and re-releasing the knives with the proper heat treatment ;)
At the price, it's hard not to buy 2. These are certainly less expensive than some of the recent ones. I like the idea of seeing these all go quickly. That would spell some redemption for Spyderco on this release.
Chris_H wrote:I've used a thick bearing grease smeared onto the tang and underside of the scales to prevent moisture from accumulating under the scales. I just wipe off the excess that squeezes out from tightening everything down.

I should go pull the scales off the MT05P that I have in the kitchen to see how that is doing. Hmm...
Something about bearing grease and kitchen use gives me the willies...But you're still breathing, right? :D

I generally tape the whole blade and tang edges and then have the surface of the blade blasted with 32 grit silicon carbide. That roughs it up really nice! Then I epoxy, use tight cross pins and cure the epoxy in the vise. The two I've had to tear apart were a real bear to get clean. I have no reservations about them coming loose or corrosion getting underneath.
42 Spyderco fixed blades and counting...
User avatar
JNewell
Member
Posts: 5077
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Land of the Bean and the Cod

#55

Post by JNewell »

Blasting is a great solution for that purpose!
JLS wrote:At the price, it's hard not to buy 2. These are certainly less expensive than some of the recent ones. I like the idea of seeing these all go quickly. That would spell some redemption for Spyderco on this release.

Something about bearing grease and kitchen use gives me the willies...But you're still breathing, right? :D

I generally tape the whole blade and tang edges and then have the surface of the blade blasted with 32 grit silicon carbide. That roughs it up really nice! Then I epoxy, use tight cross pins and cure the epoxy in the vise. The two I've had to tear apart were a real bear to get clean. I have no reservations about them coming loose or corrosion getting underneath.
User avatar
JNewell
Member
Posts: 5077
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Land of the Bean and the Cod

#56

Post by JNewell »

datoudaw wrote:Not well handled mess. Bad image for Spiderco, giving an impression of trying to make up their screw up.

Two of my friends decided to buy one knife instead of two as the did before. I am going to get one only as a protest of my own way.
Leaves more for the rest of us! :spyder:
JLS
Member
Posts: 946
Joined: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:46 am
Location: Utah

#57

Post by JLS »

JNewell wrote:Blasting is a great solution for that purpose!
Yes, it's a HEAVY grit blasting. I forgot to mention that I also "dimple" the back of the scales with a 3/16" drill bit. Did I explain that it was a real bear to get the scales off?

I've been thinking about stripping and rescaling my MT02 in M4 for some time now. But I really don't want to go through that again!
42 Spyderco fixed blades and counting...
User avatar
angusW
Member
Posts: 1504
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:13 am
Location: Hamilton, Ontario

#58

Post by angusW »

jtoler_9 wrote:I have yet to make a mule with micarta. I prefer wood scales myself. I have purchased my scales off ebay mainly. DCDesigns here on the forum sells wood scales for a living. You might want to PM him here. As for where to get micarta, halperin might sell blanks, not sure. Let me know what you find out. I am still trying to find a good source for mosaic pins. I need to get some more suplies.
Have you thought about making your own Mosaic pins? It's not terribly difficult and you can come up with your own designs and use materials that you prefer. I'm lucky in that there's a store near me that sells brass, copper and ss round and square tubes. Here's a video with a guy making some.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa_psUXHJGM
dapagco wrote:The price of the Mule Team 12 is 59.95.
Thanks dapagco. Will be buying two.
JLS wrote:Yes, it's a HEAVY grit blasting. I forgot to mention that I also "dimple" the back of the scales with a 3/16" drill bit. Did I explain that it was a real bear to get the scales off?

I've been thinking about stripping and rescaling my MT02 in M4 for some time now. But I really don't want to go through that again!
I never thought of making dimples on the back of the scales. I usually just sand them a bit. Thanks for the info. So, was it difficult to get the scales off? :D
Member of the LH Military club.

My Spydies
User avatar
jtoler_9
Member
Posts: 909
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:38 am
Location: Utah

#59

Post by jtoler_9 »

I never thought to do my own mosaic pins. Thanks for the suggestion. These are on tomorrow. Let it begin. :)
User avatar
RevDevil
Member
Posts: 100
Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:16 pm

#60

Post by RevDevil »

datoudaw wrote:Not well handled mess. Bad image for Spiderco, giving an impression of trying to make up their screw up.

Two of my friends decided to buy one knife instead of two as the did before. I am going to get one only as a protest of my own way.
No worries friend, I will be purchasing 2 of them. I will gladly pick up any slack you leve behind, as will Mr. Newell. ;)

In my opinion, the "mess" as you put it was handled promptly and professionally by Mr. Glesser, I doubt it could have been any better. Mistakes happen, everyone makes them, you?
Post Reply