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JD Spydo wrote:Now that you've mentioned food preparation with the Captain I would bet that it would make one mighty fine "steak knife". Where the 2 grinds meet is just awesome for penetration. They have devised a pointless end of a knife which will indeed penetrate whatever you are cutting.
i've said it before and i'll say it again, the captain makes for a heck of a pizza cutter! :D
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As I mentioned in an earlier post, I feel the liner lock is very well done on the Captain. JD or someone, how does the lock on the Captain compare to the Military? I know that many of you love your Military, but then bash liner locks. Personally, I like liner locks and have never had one fail me. However, the liner lock knives I have are well built and not inexpensive.

It looks like the Captain has an off-set radius ground on the tang and the liner itself appears to have more than sufficient thickness compared to the blade width. I would guess that the liner is .06 which puts in at nearly half the thickness of the blade. I don't know the steel type of the liner, but it does snap into place with a nice solid sound.

So, how does the Captain's lock compare to the Military?

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Plowboy wrote:As I mentioned in an earlier post, I feel the liner lock is very well done on the Captain. JD or someone, how does the lock on the Captain compare to the Military? I know that many of you love your Military, but then bash liner locks. Personally, I like liner locks and have never had one fail me. However, the liner lock knives I have are well built and not inexpensive.

So, how does the Captain's lock compare to the Military?

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I would have rather seen the Captain in a lockback or a compression lock if it had been possible. However for the type of construction you have with the Captain I can't see where the liner lock is going to be any problem at all. I have 3 of the Military models and I never had a lock problem with any of them.

However I have only used one of my Military models to carry. I think the lock on the Captain seems to be a little bit stouter than the one on the Military. For the type of usage I anticipate with the Captain I don't foresee any problems. :spyder:
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JD

A great report! Thank you. :D

This is one :spyder: that has to be handled before you realise its potential. I am still not over impressed by the looks of the knife but looks aren't everything!

I have other knives I have to use and test before this one but from what I have read here I think a user is certainly on the cards.

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the liner lock on the captain appears even stronger than on the military -- its shorter, thicker, and much harder to depress. both are rock solid -- no complaints here. :)
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Despite the problems with my particular Captain(the liner slips under very slight pressure) I still have not had the lock fail on me.

The liner is built quite strong.
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I don't have the Military and most likely won't because it is just too big for my taste. I'm glad to hear that the Captain's lock, if anything, is stronger than the Military's. It seem stought to me. While I like liner locks and have never experienced any problems with them, I, like JD, would have perfered the compression lock. I do like the open construction of this knife.

One other thing...I love the jimping on the choil of the Caly 3 (my first knife with this choil jimping) and would have like to see it on the Captain.

Okay, I'm off to enjoy carrying and using the Captain.

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UK KEN wrote:JD

A great report! Thank you. :D

This is one :spyder: that has to be handled before you realise its potential. I am still not over impressed by the looks of the knife but looks aren't everything!

I have other knives I have to use and test before this one but from what I have read here I think a user is certainly on the cards.

Ken
Hello UK Ken: Always great to hear your input Sir :cool:

OK, OK !! it's not going to win a beauty contest at a custom knife show. But that's not the underlying reason of this thread anyway. It is the function and usefullness of the Captain that I am intrigued with.

Ok consider this for a moment. The main reason a lot of people like "recurve blades" is because when you are slicing or slashing something you constantly have an edge in a shearing position. When you draw a blade through rope for instance you don't have to put any pressure using the Captain because it is in the mode of cutting no matter what angle you attack it with.

It's like about anything else in life. People are always slow to accept somethin different or out of the "norm". UK Ken is absolutey right. This knife has to be seen and held first hand. Seeing this knife in a catalog or magazine does not do it justice. There is just no other way to appreciate it's potential or to see the possibilites of performance.
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Our friend severedthumbs raised an issue in the recent thread on the newly available old stock of Lil'Temps. In that thread he made the statement, and I am paraphrasing, that the Captain is anything but a tank. I responded that it was at least a heavy truck, if not a tank. severedthumbs' argument was largely based on the liner lock which he suggested was very thin and easy to disengage.

Given this comment by severedthumbs, and a recent thread in which Sal stated that most locks can now be built into the very heavy duty range (except for linerlocks and frame locks), I wonder where the Captain's lock falls in the lock strength rankings. To me it seems quite well done. I think the liner is more than sufficiently thick (I'm guessing .06 with a blade of .12, I think?) and has good tension. In fact, disengaging the lock is wearing the skin on my thumb a bit...and I don't have powder puff hands.

Does anyone know if the Captain is in the heavy duty classification?

At any rate, this knife is no sissy and I feel very good about it's construction and ruggedness.

Your thoughts?

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What's this, a long thread about the captain with no pics?!? :eek:

I am really, really wanting to get this knife. I love blades that are somewhat "abnormal". Besides, my normal carry is one hawkbill type blade, and one with some belly. This is both in one! The only problem is that it's a little pricey for me right now, darn my educational needs. Think the price will go down after christmas?
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Cobrajoe,
You should get one. Will the price go down after Christmas? I really don't know. I guess if this is not a seller and inventory stays in stock a long time, the price may fall. I would think - at best - it will be a good long while before the price falls much (if ever).

I really like my Captain.
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