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Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:31 am
by Surfingringo
ABX2011 wrote:It makes sense to me that the Chef be EDC sized. I imagine the potential market is bigger. Personally I have no interest in a folder that excels when used on a cutting board.
I would imagine that's what they were thinking and I've got no issues with the design. It makes total sense if they were trying to create an edc that has some functionality at food processing. I was just expecting more of a mid sized folding kitchen knife. I hope it's wildly popular, thereby increasing the chances of us seeing an xl version one day.

Video: Spyderco 2016 Production Prototype – ATR

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:39 pm
by Mr Blonde
https://youtu.be/UKnfggWY5aA

This year, we used a live videolink to a big screen, so the entire audience could get a closer look at the various details of the knife during Eric’s presentation. This clip is taken from that videolink. I hope you understand that this was not a purpose-made video presentation, but rather a taped portion of a live presentation. Nevertheless this video offers a nice first look at a new Spyderco design and its backstory.

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:47 pm
by SpyderNut
The video is an excellent idea--and a special treat for us. :) Thanks Wouter!

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:51 pm
by Joris Mo
Great to see these again and especially great idea for all the people that couldn't be at the meet!

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:36 pm
by ABX2011
Does the hood on the ATR act like a wave? I don't think it's meant to but I'm wondering if it catches on the edge of the pocket and (partially) opens the blade upon extraction. Has this been a benefit or a problem for anyone?

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:42 pm
by SpyderNut
ABX2011 wrote:Does the hood on the ATR act like a wave? I don't think it's meant to but I'm wondering if it catches on the edge of the pocket and (partially) opens the blade upon extraction. Has this been a benefit or a problem for anyone?
The Cobra Hood can act like a Wave--inadvertently, I might add. :o I remember some folks having this issue years ago with the Salsa. I am hopeful it isn't an issue with the new ATR. Eric's video (above) really has me wanting an ATR now.

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:28 pm
by bh49
Wouter,
Thank you for pictures, reviews and video. It looks like you sold me few more Spydies. :)
Roman

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:13 am
by araneae
Despite Wouter's very excellent work, I am not very fired up about much this year. The Ouroboros and it's Kiwi x Junior hybrid design looks appealing, as does the Sage 5, and maybe a Ti Robin. That's about it for me from the group. I was really hoping to see the Dallara in there and continue to hope that Spyderco fits in a few new sub $100 knives for the average user.

Video: Spyderco 2016 Production Prototype – Brend/Pirela Mamba

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:41 am
by Mr Blonde
https://youtu.be/tfBjZ3g6Ks0

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:03 am
by JT
I bet the chef is a test piece.. if it sells well, we'll see different sizes of those. I like.

But Sal, or anyone, is the Jumpmaster 2 SE only, or do we get a PE version or not?
I'm was going to get the Aqua salt soon, but if the JM2 comes out PE, then I'll just wait.

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:22 am
by curlyhairedboy
Thanks so much for posting the pictures and videos!

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:43 am
by Evil D
I really like the Mamba. It's one of those knives that I really have no use for at all and if I did buy it I would be deviating from my "collect only users" oath, but it's slowly winning me over. I'd like to feel that one in hand.

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:58 pm
by bh49
Evil D wrote:I really like the Mamba. It's one of those knives that I really have no use for at all
and if I did buy it I would be deviating from my "collect only users" oath, but it's slowly winning me over. I'd like to feel that one in hand.
I really like the look. I really do not like size and price. If it would be just a little smaller like 3.5" inches blade and/or less expensive, probably I would buy. There are only two knives out of new fancy flock, which I like: Mamba and Nirvanna. And both are too big and not affordable.
but you never know, may be I will hit a lotto and start liking everything big.

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:07 pm
by Joris Mo
Evil D wrote:I really like the Mamba. It's one of those knives that I really have no use for at all and if I did buy it I would be deviating from my "collect only users" oath, but it's slowly winning me over. I'd like to feel that one in hand.
For me it started winning me over when I held it at the Spydiemeet last year which actually really surprised me, whenever I saw it since I thought "that's that weird knife that would be no use to me and didn't even appeal that much to me by looks but blew me away when I held it". This year it didn't disappoint when I held it again, I was surprised to feel that it actually was as good in hand as I remembered.
Still probably won't buy it, but definitely will should I win the lottery.
So be prepared that this one might start winning you over real fast once you get it in hand! ;)

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:49 pm
by JT
That Mamba has Bob Kasper fighter style "looks" to it. I don't mean it's a copy or anything, just saying it has the looks. I like it, but not the price tag, and not as a folder. Maybe as a FB... :cool:

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:03 pm
by MacLaren
The Mamba flips like lightning it appears. Very nice indeed. There's just no way Ill be able to stop myself from getting the Mamba.....its just too darn cool...

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:26 pm
by ABX2011
That Mamba is very cool. Spyderco really pulled out all the stops from the curved plunge to the blade coating as mentioned in the video. As Eric stated, the curved plunge resulted in an unsharpened section of blade. The coating was also done for aesthetics. So you've got a knife that puts form ahead of function. I understand they wanted to be true to the design but these features when combined with the pricetag, push this knife into the collector category, IMO. I'm not complaining by the way. I hope they sell a ton.

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:34 pm
by Halfneck
Anyone able to share more about the steel used on the Packer?

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:42 pm
by hoimin
Halfneck wrote:Anyone able to share more about the steel used on the Packer?
Also used on the Packer's big brother: the Bradley Bowie.

PSF27: http://sb-specialty-metals.com/product/psf27-2/
PSF27, a tool steel produced using the Spray Forming Process. Spray forming—also known as spray casting or spray deposition—begins by melting an alloy steel in an induction furnace. The molten steel is then poured through a ceramic nozzle and broken up into droplets by an array of gas jets. The droplets are accelerated by the jets to impact onto a collection surface while still in a semi-solid condition. There they build up to form a spray-formed billet, assuming the shape of the substrate surface. The small size and rapid cooling of the droplets minimizes alloy segregation to produce an extremely fine-grained homogenous steel.

PSF27 combines the advantages of the Spray Forming Process with an alloy composition (1.55% carbon, 12.00% chromium, 0.75% molybdenum, 1.00% vanadium) that is basically equivalent to D2 tool steel. The synergy of these alloys and the Spray Forming Process results in a steel that offers increased toughness, wear resistance, crack resistance, and higher hardness. It is also more predictable and dimensionally stable during the heat-treatment process.
Mule Team 19: //forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?t=64500
PSF27 vs CTS-XHP: //forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?t=64646

Re: Amsterdam Meet 2016 Report of Spyderco Prototypes

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:17 pm
by timlara
bh49 wrote:
Evil D wrote:I really like the Mamba. It's one of those knives that I really have no use for at all
and if I did buy it I would be deviating from my "collect only users" oath, but it's slowly winning me over. I'd like to feel that one in hand.
I really like the look. I really do not like size and price. If it would be just a little smaller like 3.5" inches blade and/or less expensive, probably I would buy. There are only two knives out of new fancy flock, which I like: Mamba and Nirvanna. And both are too big and not affordable.
but you never know, may be I will hit a lotto and start liking everything big.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. I really admire the craftsmanship and design of these super fancy near-custom-quality knives -- and think they're worth every penny -- but I just can't justify spending that much money since I would never actually carry them, partly due to the large size, and partly because I'd be paranoid of damaging them since they're just too nice to use.

Personally, I'd much rather see more new stuff in the small / medium EDC category, but it's not like Spyderco doesn't have that area well covered already...so maybe from a business perspective, there is actually more market share to gain with the super fancy high end stuff at the moment.

Maybe the Taichung factory is bored and just keeps asking for harder and harder projects to test their skills! ;)