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To make matters worse, I see that the TI fluted N5 is becoming available.
It's so tempting. On a side note, does anyone know of any Banks with
little security.

BAL wrote:To make matters worse, I see that the TI fluted N5 is becoming available.
It's so tempting. On a side note, does anyone know of any Banks with
little security.

Oh you want it, it's really nice! :)


Keeping food on the table is over-rated :D .

Hey Rodloos, Stop that. I don't need that at all.
Nice pic, but stop it.

BAL wrote: Nice pic, but stop it.

I agree - I already have two Native 5's to buy, I don't need another. Knock that off!

I may get labeled as insane, but I am seriously considering buying the fluted version and either the forum knife or CF version and swapping the blades into the fluted handles.

Evil D wrote:I may get labeled as insane, but I am seriously considering buying the fluted version and either the forum knife or CF version and swapping the blades into the fluted handles.

Yeah, I say insane is buying a CF one and swapping a S35VN blade into a CF Native.

Evil D wrote:I may get labeled as insane, but I am seriously considering buying the fluted version and either the forum knife or CF version and swapping the blades into the fluted handles.

S110V blade with fluted titanium handles. Oh baby, that sets my heart a flutter.

Sweet looking native rodloos, too bad it's S35VN or I will be all over that knife. I stay away from anything that is S35VN as my experience with the brown para2s has taught me that it just plain under performs.

BAL wrote:To make matters worse, I see that the TI fluted N5 is becoming available.
It's so tempting. On a side note, does anyone know of any Banks with
little security.

To the best of my knowledge, it was available.

Evil D wrote:I may get labeled as insane, but I am seriously considering buying the fluted version and either the forum knife or CF version and swapping the blades into the fluted handles.

CF, you cannot break apart Forum knife. Bad karma.

Donut wrote:Yeah, I say insane is buying a CF one and swapping a S35VN blade into a CF Native.

I am seriously thinking about getting CF S110V Native and replacing CF with wood or bone.

Donut wrote:Yeah, I say insane is buying a CF one and swapping a S35VN blade into a CF Native.

Eh, I've owned super steels and I've owned boring steels, and while the knife-geek in me likes the extra couple percent worth of performance you eke out of a high end steel, the reality is that my original Aus-8 Endura still performs plenty well to be an EDC blade. It was good enough for years, it's good enough now. If I could get an S35VN CF Native at a significant discount compared to the S110V super-steel, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Too many knives to buy and not enough money at the moment. So, if someone wants to buy both and put the high-end steel with the high-end titanium handles, then sell me the CF and S35VN leftovers for cheap, I'm all over that :p

bh49 wrote: I am seriously thinking about getting CF S110V Native and replacing CF with wood or bone.

Send me the CF scales when you're done with them, I'll get a beater user Native 5 and replace its scales :p

arjay18 wrote:Sweet looking native rodloos, too bad it's S35VN or I will be all over that knife. I stay away from anything that is S35VN as my experience with the brown para2s has taught me that it just plain under performs.

Really? My experience has been exactly the opposite. I have a Native 5 in S35VN and I'm really loving that steel. Took it to 26° inc on WEPS micro fine ceramics and it's held that edge without issue for a while now. I expected it to be about S30Vish but it's done much better.

Ken

I'm not sure what is wrong Ken, maybe it has something to do with the heat treat? I have 3 brown para2s and they have all been an utter disappointment. I have compared them to my other S30V para2s and they don't hold the edge as well. They all have the same edge geometry and finish so I can compare apples to apples. I can get through about a weeks worth of edc use on the S30V compared to 2-3 days on the S35VN before I feel I'm needing a touch up. It's not a one time thing too since I've been experimenting for months, I feel even 8cr13mov performs better though I might be wrong.

arjay18 wrote:I'm not sure what is wrong Ken, maybe it has something to do with the heat treat?

Well, it sure seems that SOMETHING is wrong. HT is possible. Not sure how you'll know that without just sending it in.

How much have you sharpened it? On my Native, the factory edge fell off very quickly. When I reprofiled it I took off quite a little bit and the difference has been significant. Possibility?

Ken

kbuzbee wrote:\
How much have you sharpened it? On my Native, the factory edge fell off very quickly. When I reprofiled it I took off quite a little bit and the difference has been significant. Possibility?

I've had this happen a handful of times too - you get a knife and the steel right at the edge just seems a big wonky, and it's not until you do some serious sharpening and remove a bit of metal that it really starts to shine. I was on a kick of convexing all of my edges at one point, and I always found it hard to decide how much of the improvement I was seeing was coming from my reprofiling, and how much was just exposing some of the deeper steel.

I doubt I can send them in, I've never tried sending a knife overseas and I bet it would cost a pretty penny.

All have been re-profiled on the EP and just maintained on the SM. I didn't take out too much steel when I re-profiled, if fact I think I just lowered the angle and stopped when I got a burr. What you are saying is a possibility, there might be weak metal on the edge from the factory sharpening that I wasn't able to remove. I'll give it a shot and resharpen the knife and this time make sure to remove significant amounts of metal, I don't think I have much to loose doing that. I never put any thought into weaken metal before. Thanks for the reminder Ken. :)

arjay18 wrote:Thanks for the reminder Ken. :)

No worries. Let us know how it works out?

Ken

Whoo, first time on the forums for a while and the 2013 forum Native looks incredible. Thanks Spyderco!

Clip wrote:Whoo, first time on the forums for a while and the 2013 forum Native looks incredible. Thanks Spyderco!

Nice to see you're still around Chris. Work keeping you busy?

arjay18 wrote:Sweet looking native rodloos, too bad it's S35VN or I will be all over that knife. I stay away from anything that is S35VN as my experience with the brown para2s has taught me that it just plain under performs.

Like some others here, I haven't had any issue with S35VN, either in my brown Para2 or any of my Native 5's. *Most* of what I cut tends to be whittling on various sticks, some pine but also ash, oak and pecan branches that fall in my yard. Seems like *any* of my super-steels lose that absolute scary-sharp edge pretty quickly on oak, but they keep a working edge pretty well. Plus the grind on my Native 5's really is great straight from the factory, they slice nice thin shavings very well.

It will be fun to see how well the S110V compares to S35VN, but I have not been disappointed in S35VN myself. I thought its composition was supposed to be very similar to S30V? I do recall that when the Native 5 first came out there was at least one person who posted about some disappointment, but I don't remember what came of that.

The S35vn on my old Native 5 held up pretty nice! Stropped up easily as well. Can't really say if it is an improvement to s30v but it's not worse.