Steeltoez83 testing log

[vivi]

One of the hardest things on cutting utensils I have had to cut is this Kevlar woven roven that you glass in areas.
I was using it in the Transom of boats to better buildup the area where the engine is bolted to the boat. That stuff is really thick and hard to cut.

Funny thing is the first couple pieces you cut out, you never thing anything about it. Then the rest of the woven roven mat you literally chew out with every single thing you own just trying to get all the mat cut in to fit the area, so you can glass it in with resin.

Now the other thing here, I get the how and why you guys get more cuts from the more coarse grit hone jobs, I really do... but I am the weird messed up guy from the desert of Texas...

I just flat out like my bevels honed to a polished finish. I want to be able to see myself in them. Yes, I know that is really messed up too. Knowing full well I can cut more from the knife with a more coarse grit hone job.

even though I know I can get more cuts out of a coarse edge, I still run more polished edges a lot of the time. it depends on the knife most the time.

[Jeb]

One of the hardest things on cutting utensils I have had to cut is this Kevlar woven roven that you glass in areas.
I was using it in the Transom of boats to better buildup the area where the engine is bolted to the boat. That stuff is really thick and hard to cut.

Funny thing is the first couple pieces you cut out, you never thing anything about it. Then the rest of the woven roven mat you literally chew out with every single thing you own just trying to get all the mat cut in to fit the area, so you can glass it in with resin.

Now the other thing here, I get the how and why you guys get more cuts from the more coarse grit hone jobs, I really do... but I am the weird messed up guy from the desert of Texas...

I just flat out like my bevels honed to a polished finish. I want to be able to see myself in them. Yes, I know that is really messed up too. Knowing full well I can cut more from the knife with a more coarse grit hone job.

I dont think thats wierd at all. Just your way of extracting value from your purchase. Leave the armchair quarterbacks in the rear view mirror where they belong. I feel like i get my money's worth after my knives have seen atleast 15 edges- usually 9 or more outside of my controlled cut testing.

I agree with the fact the knives always seem to hone in much better after you have rubbed the edge off and re-honed them several times lol.

V,
That makes me feel better lol. So I am not alone lol.
No all kidding aside, I do understand the why they will cut better and longer, I am just of the mindset mine have to be polished when I am through.

Now that's not to say if I have a big project going on and have to stop to sharpen my knife to finish what I am trying to do that I don't just hit it with 400 grit and run with that till I am through.

And talking about a big project, guys I have not hit a lick at anything today. I have been a total slug.

[Steeltoez83]

Here are the options I have available to put thru testing in terms of serrations. H1, 8cr, vg10, and k390. H1 is now H2, however if Sal wants me to test H1 I can most certainly do that. The police will need to be binder clipped to stand on equal footing with the others. In terms of the cold steel vs spyder edge im thinking double agent 2 vs persistence would be the best comparison, but thats down the road.

[cabfrank]

I know you know this, but one of the difficulties in comparisons within Spyderco models is not all serrations are created equal. That has to make it hard to differentiate among the different steels.

[Steeltoez83]

I can only test finished products with a standardized test. Variation within the way serrations are produced are beyond my control. With several samples tested i think I am representing a fuller picture.

[Steeltoez83]

Im testing serrated k390 today. The model is a police 4 which reaches the next tier of my testing based on cutting edge length. To create an even playing field, I attached a medium binder clip to reduce edge length. Comparison picture against the leaf jumper. So far im 100 units of work completed, and the edge is perfectly fine. This knife is only sharpened on my 800 grit king neo which is harder than ceramic but not as hard as cbn/diamond.

[Steeltoez83]

The serrated k390 has surpassed vg 10 in my testing. At 260 it is still passing with flying colors.

[Steeltoez83]

Finished up testing this morning. The k390 cut alot, the plain edge i believe did only 44- this is a 922.7% increase over that.

After 3 trial tests im satisfied with this approach for teeth testing. I believe the testing we have always seen caters to plain edge and the spyder edge holds its own. Navigate outside those waters and the plain edge doesn't hold its own. How these medias relate to real world use is still subject to scrutiny. The majority of my knives are plain edge, and I will continue to buy plain edge becuz its suits my needs more times than not. However I still enjoy using serrations and recognize their value.

Final number is 450. Bcuz the knife has been sharpened a few times, im assuming the teeth are more convexed which creates less snagging when evaluation of the apex occurs.

[Steeltoez83]

I did a quick sharpening video on my serrated LJ vg10 a few days ago. Im occupied with another project so it will be some time b4 this gets cut tested.

In terms of sharpening, I use a fine india 400 to start. I use 3 different angled strokes to make sure im getting within the scallops. Depending on how dull is where I start the waves at. In this case I was very dull so I started at 4. 4 sets of the 3 different angled strokes- 1 reverse stroke to remove any burr. Descending to 3 sets of 3 strokes- 1 reverse stroke- then 2 sets of 3 strokes etc. After im done with the india, I moved to the spyderco brown ceramic and did the same thing starting at 4 sets of 3 (12) and going to 1 set of 3. I prefer this combo because the brown spyderco stone is refining what the indy established.

I freehand mine, so thats right hand hold- push cutting the stone kinda sharpening on the corner of both stones for my progression.

[Steeltoez83]

Im taking my time with testing this edge on the leafjumper. So far 180 units of work, and the vg10 is still passing. I forecast failure around 260/270.