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Surfingringo wrote:

I'm goin fishin, :)

Cliff Stamp wrote:

MichaelScott wrote:Belief is the acceptance of a thing without evidence for it.

We have to be careful here because there are many definitions for terms. Theory can be used to mean a loose guess, but that isn't what is meant when someone describes evolutionary theory. In the philosophy of knowledge a belief is just a position on the truth value of a proposition. A belief becomes knowledge when it has certain qualifiers depending on the specific theory of knowledge. A common one that many people are introduced to is that you know something when it is a justified true belief. Most people don't hold to this past the introductory stage because of Gettier counter examples.

I think to attempt to evaluate and judge most things on the basis of evidence, logic and the scientific method is to narrow one's appreciation and experiences of life.

Feynman has a wonderful little piece where he responds to an artist who argues science destroys the beauty of a flower. Feynman responds that he can see more of it because of his understanding not less. Understanding doesn't limit what he can see, it expands it.

I don't think anyone has argued that we should only discuss empirical claims. However I have made the argument that if you are going to make an empirical claim then you should consider the evidence.

MichaelScott wrote:I agree. That's why I offered to continue with Cliff via PM if he desires, but not here. I think this topic has wobbled too far afield. As I hope I've said, my preference is for civil and interesting discussions based generally on Spyderco, the company and their products. If I wander too far afield from that, please, someone smack me back on track.

MichaelScott wrote:Ankerson, no, not at all. I was just remarking that I want to be careful to not get sucked into irrelevant debate. If a topic thread supports a certain amount of respectful and thoughtful discussion, then I'm ok with it. But, I think some 'conversations' get off track when some folks are trying to persuade others to accept their views or beliefs. I once heard a serious and very smart man who has been in many public debates over the years say, when asked if he had ever experienced one of his debate opponents changing his mind, declare that it was more likely to see a supernova exploding overhead. Those are the kind of debates I want to stay out of unless the point is to debate. I think this forum is not the place for that.

So, feel free to smack me if I wander.... :D

MichaelScott wrote:If you are so inclined, try mine: The Q Fragments, Michael Douglas Scott. Available in paper or Kindle formats on Amazon.

Ankerson wrote:I don't come here to debate, discussion, yes.

If I want to read a book I will go to a book store or a Library and sit down with a cup of coffee and a pastry and read it.

If I want to argue or debate I will go to a Political or Religious forum and or a Computer related forum, I don't normally go to those anymore.

Scroop wrote:

Ankerson wrote:I don't come here to debate, discussion, yes.

If I want to read a book I will go to a book store or a Library and sit down with a cup of coffee and a pastry and read it.

If I want to argue or debate I will go to a Political or Religious forum and or a Computer related forum, I don't normally go to those anymore.

You sir, win the internet!

Evil D wrote:...You want a special sub forum for something? How about a sub forum for arguing and bickering so I don't have to see it clogging up General Discussion.

So, I'm gonna go outside today and use my knives, enjoy them, and leave this crap behind. Who's with me?