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Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:38 pm
by polyhexamethyl
maybe the pivot marking is an indicator, if there 'd be fakes i assume the marking would be the same on every knife?
could someone chime in and tell me when the blurple millie batches where made?
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:03 am
by AndrewM
polyhexamethyl wrote:hey guys,
i'm about to pick up a spyderco c36 military model in s110V Purple via ebay from outfitter country.
your recent discussions about fakes from their store concern me a bit.
a handful friends of mine bought knives from outfittercountry and these knives all seem genuine.
any concerns about buying a S110V blurple millie from them?
shipping to europe (+ customs) from any other company (like knifecenter) is just outrageous
kind regards
julian
HI Julian,
I cannot comment about the military specifically, but I bought my H1 models from the same seller on ebay. I figured it they were fakes, they wouldn't use real H1 steel. So when the Ladybug arrived I dropped it in a small bucket of extremely saturated salt water for a week. Came out as good as new. Plus the opening and locking mechanism seemed perfect to a novice like me, and it is razor sharp (I bought SE).
I could be wrong, but after testing the ladybug, I purchased a Rock Salt from same seller. Hasn't arrived yet but due any day. I also watched some youtube videos about fakes, with my ladybug in my hand, and from what I can tell, it is legit. They had good prices and communication.
Hope that helps you. I googled the seller but couldn't ascertain if they were authorised Spyderco resellers or not.
Andrew
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:47 am
by polyhexamethyl
hi Andrew,
thank you for the reply!
I Think they're not a veryfied reseller, but i bought a couple of knives from them a few years back (when there weren't many issues with "good" fakes)
and I#m pretty positive i got genuine Spyderco Products.
I gave it a Shot and ordered a blurple millie today -- and the Santoku Kitchen as well!
kind regards,
Julian
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:15 am
by THE PUNISHER
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/596556864
Fake? the g-10 looks off,and the safety release has no arch.
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:30 pm
by DBDEV1
It is fake. The back-lock must be indented on the VG-10 model. If I were you, I'd stick to authorized dealers ONLY.
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:52 pm
by DBDEV1
Also, the Civilian isn't supposed to come in a box. If I'm not mistaken, it normally comes in the nice zippered pouch. Considering the low cost at which grubby counterfeiters sell these for, they are unwilling to buy the zippered cases and lack the expertise/knowledge/skill to duplicate them in-house.
As an aside, opening a factory/office in China virtually guarantees the theft of trade-secrets/materials via insider threat vectors. Their government uses counterfeiting (money and goods) as a form of economic warfare against us. If, however, our population were ever to learn the true percentage of counterfeit goods in circulation, the consumer market would grind to a halt.
In any case, be careful with these types of purchases. Always ask for extremely detailed photographs of the item, and run those photos through an image search utility to make sure they haven't been used elsewhere (such as stock photographs, etc).
Finally, consider requiring the use of a reputable escrow service before making any arrangements outside of established and reputable authorized dealers. That way, if you receive the product and realize it is a fraud, you aren't scammed. Any private seller that is unwilling to participate in the escrow process with a well known & vetted service is probably a scammer.
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:52 pm
by Nate
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:54 pm
by camporama
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:56 pm
by Spydersense
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:31 am
by Ttop191
Not a true "clone" per se but I've found what is essentially a Byrd CaraCara2 but with a traditional hole instead of the comet. Handle scales and blade shape are exactly like a g10 CC2.
It's called a Brother 1605.
They also make a Manix XL knockoff the "1601"
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:00 pm
by Trevitrace
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... rco-PM2-M4
Seems sprint runs aren't safe anymore either. There's a link on that page to aliEx and the jade/M4 para 2. Scummy A-holes.
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:26 am
by anagarika
The 1605 used to be circulating with Navy brand, steel purportedly 440C, k631 if I remember correctly.
Ttop191 wrote:Not a true "clone" per se but I've found what is essentially a Byrd CaraCara2 but with a traditional hole instead of the comet. Handle scales and blade shape are exactly like a g10 CC2.
It's called a Brother 1605.
They also make a Manix XL knockoff the "1601"
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:53 am
by anagarika
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:35 am
by funghiman
Cameron wrote:Very happy with this one.
//forum.spyderco.com/viewto ... &#p1054450
Cameron that's a sad story... your image has been stolen to create a fake listing. I just knew I had seen this picture somewhere around before.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262902463669
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:49 am
by motocoder
Started a new thread on a Slysz Bowie fake:
//forum.spyderco.com/viewto ... =8&t=74062
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:50 am
by Larry_Mott
I guess there isn't much Spyderco can do about this bottom feeder, but i'd love for him to get booted off FB.
https://www.facebook.com/chinaknife
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:20 pm
by polyhexamethyl
Thats eBay Germany from a private seller
http://www.ebay.de/itm/SPYDERCO-Messer- ... 2485597310 the notch on the blade looks off to me. can you chime in?
the flipper he's selling is definitive fake!
kind regards,
julian
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 2:42 am
by Midnightrider
I have bought two items from outfitter country and they were both fine and the orders were shipped correctly and fast.
I was not aware if any problems with this shop. Can somebody point me to some threads about this. You can pm me if it doesn't belong in this discussion. Thanks.
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:37 pm
by racewin
Re: Spyderco Knock-offs, "Replicas"and Fakes
Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 5:30 pm
by polyhexamethyl
again it's me
on an Austrian sellers Platform a guy claims he's selling Spyderco "military 3" Models which were according to him announced from Spyderco for late 2016!
I told him that he's selling counterfeits and according to current laws (also back here in Austria) that is FRAUD!!!
he responded to my request to take the listing offline very unwilling and also quite rude calling me a few things that i will better not say here on the forum :)
He also claims, that he's able to get more of these knives in different varieties:
https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und ... -205371893
At least he's not asking a regular MSRP but still he is selling this piece of junk under a registered trademark - the knife nevertheless obviously is FAKE!!
he's also listing this jot singh khalsa, which i'm not really familiar with, but the Picture he's using is clearly a stock Picture of somebody else!
https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und ... 205523125/
Is there any way to shut this operation down?