Cruwear Lightweight Temperence

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Re: Cruwear Lightweight Temperence

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Hi holokai, and thanks for the feedback. I found that serrations did a better job cutting through the hide and the tendons, and the small teeth on the serrations make the membrane between the hide and the rest of the body “jump” as you peel it back. The only thing that I have found different when cutting meat with a serrated knife is that the blade may “accelerate” if you use a lot of pressure, so gentle pressure coupled with a sharp blade is the way to go. At home we use a serrated Spyderco K11 Cook’s knife to cut most of our meat, so once you get the hang of it, it is second nature.

Hi Brock O Lee, you are absolutely right that the Moran presents itself as small knife which I believe is one of its strengths. As you point out, one thing to consider is the “hidden” choil/ricasso which is flat. If you put your index finger on it, and the thumb on the small ramp with the Kraton insert, the rest of the handle has plenty of space for your remaining three fingers plus the spine of the handle “locks” into your palm. As a comparison, I like the PM2 in terms of handle length, and the Moran used this way has plenty of space. The other way to hold the knife is sideways. For that you put your thumb and opposing index finger on the angled portions of the handle just before it meets the blade, and the three remaining fingers rest on the bottom of the handle. Again the “spine” of the handle will lock into your palm. Lastly the soft Kraton inserts on the handle come to life when the knife is wet - quite a different way to secure the handle, and not used on many other models. All this to say that the handle is a bit of a “sleeper”, but once you use it you realize how much refinement went into its design.

The other thing to mention is the balance and weight of the knife is right on while being truly “feather weight” - you forget you are carrying it. The width to length ratio on the blade is high not unlike the Temperance - this makes for a good slicer and stable blade. It is a very refined design, but maybe not very much appreciated since the looks are a bit unconventional - I believe Sal has a special word for that. All I can suggest is handle the knife in person, Like Hans suggested, and if possible use it - it will grow on you fast.

JD Spydo, where are you on the Moran and serrations?

Thanks again
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Re: Cruwear Lightweight Temperence

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gumaropa wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:30 am
…one thing to consider is the “hidden” choil/ricasso which is flat. If you put your index finger on it, and the thumb on the small ramp with the Kraton insert, the rest of the handle has plenty of space for your remaining three fingers plus the spine of the handle “locks” into your palm.
Thanks for clarifying the grip options, and how well it actually works in use. I did not “get it” at the time. Maybe I should have another look at the Moran again… 👍
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Re: Cruwear Lightweight Temperence

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gumaropa wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:30 am
Hi holokai, and thanks for the feedback. I found that serrations did a better job cutting through the hide and the tendons, and the small teeth on the serrations make the membrane between the hide and the rest of the body “jump” as you peel it back. The only thing that I have found different when cutting meat with a serrated knife is that the blade may “accelerate” if you use a lot of pressure, so gentle pressure coupled with a sharp blade is the way to go. At home we use a serrated Spyderco K11 Cook’s knife to cut most of our meat, so once you get the hang of it, it is second nature.
Thank you for the detailed reply; the background information on your serrated knife use helps to put things into perspective. I will definitely look for one to handle in person. Appreciate the feedback from you and Hans!

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Bill Morn really emphasized the long term refinement to get to where it was. Jurphass would say "it is a mature design".

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Re: Cruwear Lightweight Temperence

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A trip down memory lane regarding the Moran - includes other votes for serrations!

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87185

viewtopic.php?p=1677127&hilit=Bill+Mora ... 4#p1677127
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Re: Cruwear Lightweight Temperence

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This knife is a fantastic design. I got to try one in hand for first time last year at Shot Show and I couldn't keep It out of my hand when I was playing with it.

That handle is extremely comfortable and it has a joystick thumb groove for reverse grip, which is something I've never seen on a knife before and is incredibly comfortable.

Very nice design Sal, and with a high performance steel to boot.
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Well, i should be putting one through its paces in my woods soon.

Gonna try to write my Military 2 review before it gets here.
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I’ve been trying to find the orange drop point for a minute now but it’s a rare bird on the secondary…beautiful design and would be perfect for processing game…eventually I’ll snag one 🤞
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Vamais wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:16 am
I keep coming back to this thread and reading about the attributes of the Cruwear Temperance. But then I ask myself: "What will this knife do better than my CS 3V Master Hunter, which I already have and like, where the performance difference is significant enough to justify the cost?"
I asked this exact same question. Plain edge was hard to justify, so I have a serrated one on the way, at long last. I think the geometry is slicy enough that it will serve a different purpose, especially with serrations.

What pushed me over the edge was that CPM-Cruwear is probably going away with the demise of Crucible, and its toughness seems to be ideal for serrations. I like the shallow serrations much more than the aggressive ones. There are so many positive reviews of this model, I had to grab one before they all disappeared.
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