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Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2025 10:37 pm
by James Y
Ankerson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 25, 2025 10:29 pm
James Y wrote: ↑Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:33 pm
Decades ago, people didn't talk about everything like they do now. TBH, I don't know if that was really the best thing or not.
I started having what I now know was depression from age 14. One day I tried to describe what I was feeling to my mom; and while she was a great mom, what I was saying clearly upset her. So I clammed up about it and never brought it up to anybody ever again. That depression was with me until sometime in my 40s. I got over it on my own. Would I recommend that path for everyone? Heck no. Luckily, I made it through to the other side.
I never told anyone about my obsessive-compulsive disorder, which started around age 7. I didn't understand it, so I didn't know it even had a name. It was bad for about a year or two, especially at night. But it eventually became mild. I still have it mildly today, but it doesn't affect me negatively.
And I've never told anyone about my synesthesia before posting about it in this thread. I just thought that everyone perceived things the same way I did. I only learned there was a name for it within the past 15 years or so.
In decades past, like 50, 60, 70 and more years ago, many people were put into asylums who didn't belong in them. Many were treated very poorly, and were not helped at all. Just being different from the norm (in some cases, even being an unwed mother) was often grounds to be thrown into an asylum.
There has to be a balance.
Jim
Jim,
A balance would be good, but then anything would be better than doing
NOTHING like they are these days.
Like totally ignoring the issue.
Metal heath is a serious issue here in the US and it's only going to get worse.
Jim
I agree that something needs to be done for those who clearly need it. In the main district where I do my weekly shopping, there are occasionally people wandering the streets who should be in a facility. I've seen a few over the years who were freakin' nutcases. Yet they were walking around freely. And IIRC, within a few blocks is supposedly a mental health facility. Are they in the area because that facility is there, or vice versa?
Jim
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:28 am
by Michal O
I think you guys are going too far with this. Being triggerred by annoying noises is real thing for some people, but isn't in same box with depression or some other serious mental illnes, sometimes caused by drugs.
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:35 am
by Ankerson
Michal O wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:28 am
I think you guys are going too far with this. Being triggerred by annoying noises is real thing for some people, but isn't in same box with depression or some other serious mental illnes, sometimes caused by drugs.
It actually can be and is depending.
It can be a symptom of other mental disorders actually.
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 8:31 am
by James Y
Michal O wrote: ↑Sun Oct 26, 2025 3:28 am
I think you guys are going too far with this. Being triggerred by annoying noises is real thing for some people, but isn't in same box with depression or some other serious mental illnes, sometimes caused by drugs.
I think you missed the entire point of my post.
The point I was making is that
in decades past, virtually ANY condition or behavior that set someone apart to make them seem 'abnormal' to most people, would have made them susceptible to being taken to an asylum against their will. In many, many cases, totally unjustified. Why do you think that even to this day, so many people who have unusual experiences don't tell anybody about them, for fear of being labeled as 'crazy'? That's an instinctual holdover from those times.
However, there ARE many people walking around today with severe mental illnesses, who are a potential danger to themselves and to others, who do need mental health care, but are not getting it because of a lack of mental health care facilities today.
That's why I said there needs to be a balance.
I was NOT saying that people with misophonia requires them to be locked up in a facility, any more than someone with synesthesia, or OCD, or depression, or whatever. That was the whole point I was making a few posts back.
Jim
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 7:28 am
by soc_monki
zhyla wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:52 pm
vivi wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:42 am
at my kids school some of the students wear ear protection like you'd wear at a range.
she says its because they get "overstimulated" by noisy environments.
when I went to school that wasn't a thing.
Of course it was. Some kids were just struggling and didn’t know why or what to do.
Conformity is not a virtue.
It's like people saying autism wasn't a thing back in the day, yet you look back and see evidence everywhere because our knowledge of how to diagnose it has increased so much. My son is autistic and adhd, my wife is as well (diagnosed at 40), and I very well may be. I know I have misophonia, certain sounds just drive me nuts. So does overly loud areas, I get overstimulated, but I've learned to deal with it in my 45 years of life. Doesn't mean it's not hard, it's terribly difficult, but I haven't gotten any diagnosis or treatment.
I doubt there's a cure, just like with autism. It kills me when people allude to a "cure" when it's not a disease. Being neurodivergent isn't something to be ridiculed or ashamed of. People need to learn to be more empathetic, and try to understand why people need accommodations rather than just saying "BACK IN MY DAY!"
There's a whole lot of different people out there, let them live the way they want. Does it really affect your life at all? Just because you may not understand someone or their life choices doesn't mean you have to try and remove their choices from them, whether that's a conscious choice or something they can't just choose away like adhd, autism, or misophonia.
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 8:08 am
by zhyla
I saw a video of a lady that had a gag reflex tied to sounds like crinkling chip bags. Looked really inconvenient. “Back in my day” that wasn’t a thing — because it’s rare and there was no viral video feed being shoved at me with all the craziest stuff in the world.
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 9:07 am
by ykspydiefan
Yeah. The ignorant belief that this is new, is ignorant.
Like viral beach videos of 1962 questioning why there are no fat people on the beach then, but there are now.
They were shamed, bullied and told they were too fat to appear in public let alone the beach.
Answer, they were at home.
Todays difference is people have felt more free to live their lives in public.
Land of the free. Correct? Or, still wild west? Free to fight over.
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:32 pm
by Mad Mac
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:49 pm
by TkoK83Spy
That's not surprising. People live much more stagnant/sedentary lifestyles these days compared to the past. Too much technology taking up too much time, easily accessible fast food options that can be brought right to your door. Plus, the cost of eating healthy is sadly more expensive than fast food, which to my understanding isn't very cheap anymore either though?? We very rarely eat fast food in our house.
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:23 pm
by vivi
eating unhealthy isn't cheaper if you're willing to do basic food prep and cook at home.
besides that also ignores the fact that eating enough calories to make yourself fat is more expensive than eating fewer calories.
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:31 pm
by James Y
vivi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:23 pm
eating unhealthy isn't cheaper if you're willing to do basic food prep and cook at home.
besides that also ignores the fact that eating enough calories to make yourself fat is more expensive than eating fewer calories.
Agree 100%.
Jim
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 3:18 pm
by Ankerson
vivi wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 2:23 pm
eating unhealthy isn't cheaper if you're willing to do basic food prep and cook at home.
besides that also ignores the fact that eating enough calories to make yourself fat is more expensive than eating fewer calories.
That's actually not true at all and hasn't been for a
very long time.
Fresh healthy foods in a store cost one **** of a lot more than a value meal in a fast food place.
You aren't buying much for $5 in a grocery store that is healthy, especially today, you can forget it.
But you can get a whole value meal for $5.
And with all the processed and ultra processed foods out there now that are killing us slowly?
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 4:39 pm
by Mad Mac
Misophonia was the subject of an episode of
Criminal Minds.
Could it be a motive for murder?
Here is an article in Psychology Today about the program.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... inal-minds
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 5:58 am
by Aladinsane
soc_monki wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 7:28 am
zhyla wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:52 pm
vivi wrote: ↑Thu Oct 16, 2025 11:42 am
at my kids school some of the students wear ear protection like you'd wear at a range.
she says its because they get "overstimulated" by noisy environments.
when I went to school that wasn't a thing.
Of course it was. Some kids were just struggling and didn’t know why or what to do.
Conformity is not a virtue.
It's like people saying autism wasn't a thing back in the day, yet you look back and see evidence everywhere because our knowledge of how to diagnose it has increased so much. My son is autistic and adhd, my wife is as well (diagnosed at 40), and I very well may be. I know I have misophonia, certain sounds just drive me nuts. So does overly loud areas, I get overstimulated, but I've learned to deal with it in my 45 years of life. Doesn't mean it's not hard, it's terribly difficult, but I haven't gotten any diagnosis or treatment.
I doubt there's a cure, just like with autism. It kills me when people allude to a "cure" when it's not a disease. Being neurodivergent isn't something to be ridiculed or ashamed of. People need to learn to be more empathetic, and try to understand why people need accommodations rather than just saying "BACK IN MY DAY!"
There's a whole lot of different people out there, let them live the way they want. Does it really affect your life at all? Just because you may not understand someone or their life choices doesn't mean you have to try and remove their choices from them, whether that's a conscious choice or something they can't just choose away like adhd, autism, or misophonia.
Thank you, @soc_monki, you articulated this very well.
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:31 am
by Mad Mac
We are all victims of "
Disease Mongering".
"Disease mongering refers to drug companies’ involvement in informing the lay public and health professionals about the illnesses targeted by their products. Typically, drug promotion is claimed to intentionally distort perceptions of the seriousness or treatability of disease or condition to sell drugs."
Re: Misophonia Poll
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2025 1:55 pm
by ykspydiefan
Mad Mac wrote: ↑Mon Oct 27, 2025 12:32 pm
Thanks for posting this. Obesity is a very real problem in USA and Canada too. I hope you did not miss my point.
I think people today feel empowered to do anything they want. I have met many people who believe it is their human right to be as fat as possible. No regard for health or self-esteem.
I'm busy with a bison.... But I would like to see the chart for how much food waste there is in the Americas.
