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vivi wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 9:27 pm

on paper those locks can solve those issues,but in practice the BM's I've owned didn't have quite the amount of self closing bias I look for, and they can be unlocked on accident even easier than the cbbl.

I have a couple non-BM crossbar knives. The Walmart Ozark Trail everyone loses their minds over has such a strong detente that it feels like a spring assisted knife. Mine won’t pop open without some deliberate force.

zhyla wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm

Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.

Seems like this lock either requires a big notch/choil in the blade or they just happen to all have it. I assume it was mandatory for clearance around the lock mechanism, which kills it for me. I couldn't have an edge all the way to the handle like a Bodacious with an axis lock, so I'd actually choose the ergonomic issues I have over that.

zhyla wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm

Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.

I have had two knives open in my pocket over some 50yrs of carrying a pocket knife. The first was a sliding scale auto. I carried it for a few years after that incident. I reduced the chance of repeat by putting a lanyard through the lanyard hole.

The other was a well known premium brand crossbar lock with thumb studs (I hate thumb studs). It opened twice in a week. Sadly that knife, which I really like, doesn’t get carried anymore. I removed the thumb studs as a test and it didn’t open however without the studs it was a drop opening knife only knife, not good either. I have never bought another crossbar lock and likely never will.

A Spyderco with a crossbar lock might be safer with the spydie hole but I am still not likely to buy one.

Evil D wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:05 am

zhyla wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm

Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.

Seems like this lock either requires a big notch/choil in the blade or they just happen to all have it. I assume it was mandatory for clearance around the lock mechanism, which kills it for me. I couldn't have an edge all the way to the handle like a Bodacious with an axis lock, so I'd actually choose the ergonomic issues I have over that.

There was an axis lock Tenacious in the prototype case at BLADE. Actually a production sample.

Mushroom wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:26 pm

zhyla wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm

Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.

They have a handful of crossbar lock models in the works. There were some on display in the prototype case at BLADE Show.

Are you serious?

If so, did it look like they were coil spring driven or omega spring driven?

Red Leader wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:46 am

Mushroom wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:26 pm

zhyla wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm

Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.

They have a handful of crossbar lock models in the works. There were some on display in the prototype case at BLADE Show.

Are you serious?

If so, did it look like they were coil spring driven or omega spring driven?

I didn't look close enough to see what type of spring was being used but yes, I am serious. There were several models with crossbar locks. If I recall correctly, they will primarily be making their crossbar lock models in China. I do not recall any models that were from other countries of origin.

Mushroom wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:32 pm

I didn't look close enough to see what type of spring was being used but yes, I am serious. There were several models with crossbar locks. If I recall correctly, they will primarily be making their crossbar lock models in China. I do not recall any models that were from other countries of origin.

Hey Nick, I'm pretty sure that they were all omega springs.