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Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:46 am
by SpeedHoles
A retailer just posted up that they'd be shipping these by March 15th. Roughly a 3 week outlook.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:49 am
by BaizuoBeGone
Just sold out already at wayofknife

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:39 pm
by TkoK83Spy
$277 for a Smock, yowza! Got mine when they first came out, like what... 5 years ago?? $160. That's nuts.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:17 pm
by StarTraveler
That looks really cool but, since I've never held a Smock, I question whether I'd like the grip.

Off to read the specs on the Smock....

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 7:04 pm
by Popsickle
SpeedHoles wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:50 pm
Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:28 pm
SpeedHoles wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:27 pm
Contrary to much of the popular opinion, I'm not a huge fan of the Smock mostly due to the ergos not being my favorite. I also generally don't like coated blades as much.

But despite saying either of those things... This does look pretty serious all blacked out, pretty mean

Looks like smooth G10?
There isn’t much info yet about the texture of the scales . If I was to buy another Smock this screams double black linen Micarta for me . Smock is either like or dislike from since release . I have a weakness for the blade type and button release. Dan
I like the action on it, cool design. But just not close to my take on grip ergos, no biggie. Double black linen Micarta does sound good. I have red linen on my standard pre-cqi model.


Mrj wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:44 pm
SpeedHoles wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:27 pm

Looks like smooth G10?
The Instagram post says Aluminum but I’m still don’t want to make it in stone yet.
Ah ok thanks for the detail. Well, it's not for me, aluminum, especially smooth, is not my go-to. Hopefully others enjoy.
I’m willing to bet these pop on the secondary for a lesser price due to the aluminum.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 8:50 am
by Red Leader
StarTraveler wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:17 pm
That looks really cool but, since I've never held a Smock, I question whether I'd like the grip.

Off to read the specs on the Smock....
One of the few Spydies (apart from the kitchen knives) that looks like you might be able to get most or all of the blade cutting on a flat surface. That's a plus. A lot of dead handle space around the pivot though, with a slightly less useful choil than something like a Native or Stretch (or a host of others).

I like it, but I'm torn about it.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:41 am
by Jeb
My opinion here guys sooo, take it for that only please but; the Smock is a neet little knife and regardless of what price it is.

With the bearings and how it has the Flipper tab and mainly how much more effort with the extra machining that goes into this little beast, it's a little monster hiding jimo...

I have the newer style with Carbon Fiber scales and the S30V steel and once you hone and polish the edge the first couple times, it's nothing short of awesome. It's a Razor in the making. A flipping Razor.

I am going to modify mine a little so that it flips a little easier and I think I am going to make a little bigger countersink area around the blade lock release button.

These are all just my OCD working overtime on a neet little monstrous knife. My really dislike about this knife is they don't make it in a bigger brother like the XL versions of other Spyderco knifes lol.

Now while my pix are really poor quality and doesn't even begin to measure what you guys here are accustomed to, have a look at my Smock, it's not the newest blacked out version either; which I figure will be an even more awesome looking knife. Aluminum scales are not really all that new to the seen, we all have other knives with Aluminum scales.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:49 am
by SpeedHoles
Jeb wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:41 am
My opinion here guys sooo, take it for that only please but; the Smock is a neet little knife and regardless of what price it is.

With the bearings and how it has the Flipper tab and mainly how much more effort with the extra machining that goes into this little beast, it's a little monster hiding jimo...

I have the newer style with Carbon Fiber scales and the S30V steel and once you hone and polish the edge the first couple times, it's nothing short of awesome. It's a Razor in the making. A flipping Razor.

I am going to modify mine a little so that it flips a little easier and I think I am going to make a little bigger countersink area around the blade lock release button.

These are all just my OCD working overtime on a neet little monstrous knife. My really dislike about this knife is they don't make it in a bigger brother like the XL versions of other Spyderco knifes lol.

Now while my pix are really poor quality and doesn't even begin to measure what you guys here are accustomed to, have a look at my Smock, it's not the newest blacked out version either; which I figure will be an even more awesome looking knife. Aluminum scales are not really all that new to the seen, we all have other knives with Aluminum scales.

Just consider any potential for unintentional blade lock release scenarios with certain grips or motions while in use, something to always be aware of. I'm just not sure why you'd increase a countersunk area around the button...?

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:26 am
by Jeb
My big fat thumb just doesn't release the blade lock easy enough as is. The button protruded another .020" it probably won't be a big enough issue to get under my skin and on my radar to figure how to help the issue.

But with a little more open countersink area to relief, just in the scales, I feel certain it will fix this small issue for my fat thumb. If I am making any sense to the action I want to try.

If you look

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:07 pm
by Jeb
Here is a looksee at what I did with a 120 degree Haas countersink. I will not clutter up this thread with the other modification I did, but will post these other pix on my thread in the picture gallery, if anyone want to look; so as not to offend or seem like I was trying to hijack the op of this thread lol.

But I will say the knife is way easier to flip open and my fat thumb perfectly releases the blade without me having to mash the knife so hard it was uncomfortable.

Edit: The bottom pic is of the oem hole for the button release, you can see the increased countersink, it is a little more tacky per/say, but for my use of this knife will be greatly improved and I will end up using the knife more now.

The other option I had would have been to tig on the end of the button, then sand and polish back to get the button to protruding more. Wasn't willing to do that lol.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:25 pm
by Popsickle
SpeedHoles wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:49 am
Jeb wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:41 am
My opinion here guys sooo, take it for that only please but; the Smock is a neet little knife and regardless of what price it is.

With the bearings and how it has the Flipper tab and mainly how much more effort with the extra machining that goes into this little beast, it's a little monster hiding jimo...

I have the newer style with Carbon Fiber scales and the S30V steel and once you hone and polish the edge the first couple times, it's nothing short of awesome. It's a Razor in the making. A flipping Razor.

I am going to modify mine a little so that it flips a little easier and I think I am going to make a little bigger countersink area around the blade lock release button.

These are all just my OCD working overtime on a neet little monstrous knife. My really dislike about this knife is they don't make it in a bigger brother like the XL versions of other Spyderco knifes lol.

Now while my pix are really poor quality and doesn't even begin to measure what you guys here are accustomed to, have a look at my Smock, it's not the newest blacked out version either; which I figure will be an even more awesome looking knife. Aluminum scales are not really all that new to the seen, we all have other knives with Aluminum scales.

Just consider any potential for unintentional blade lock release scenarios with certain grips or motions while in use, something to always be aware of. I'm just not sure why you'd increase a countersunk area around the button...?
I think I sold my previous version for that reason. That in a couple grips there was risk of unlocking it

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:06 pm
by ZrowsN1s
Smocks are cool. I don't carry mine much because I have more knives than I know what to do with. But it's a really unique piece. I got the 20cv smooth g10 version, and put a Razor Edge Knives milled ti clip on it.

If you don't have one and are looking for something unique with a HUGE fidget factor, it's worth getting one. It's just fun to play with. As for use, it's a neutral handle with a sharp edge. Could be better ergonomics, and the back of the edge can hang up on material, but definitely usable.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:55 pm
by Mrj
These have started trickling in to venders.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:35 pm
by Landshark99
just ordered one from NC Blade before they sold out, to go with my white g10, Rex45 Smock

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:31 pm
by Toddm
So aside paying a premium for a sprint, what does this really bring that the normal s30v version doesn't? I wouldn't call Aluminum vs Carbon Fiber a huge win either way. s30v vs Cruwear, Cruwear for durability but s30 from what I could find should hold an edge longer and be more corrosion resistant. I'm sure that varies some by heat treat etc.

Just seems like when you can order the normal smock for around $180 delivered if you shop around (under $165 delivered if you really shop around), $280 for a cruwear version is a huge premium.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:14 pm
by vapedudde1975
Knife center has them in stock as of 3/14/2025

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:57 pm
by R100
Toddm wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:31 pm
So aside paying a premium for a sprint, what does this really bring that the normal s30v version doesn't? I wouldn't call Aluminum vs Carbon Fiber a huge win either way. s30v vs Cruwear, Cruwear for durability but s30 from what I could find should hold an edge longer and be more corrosion resistant. I'm sure that varies some by heat treat etc.

Just seems like when you can order the normal smock for around $180 delivered if you shop around (under $165 delivered if you really shop around), $280 for a cruwear version is a huge premium.
Please.... Don't talk sense. You'll invalidate the majority of our decisions.

Dan

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:35 am
by Soban
Toddm wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:31 pm
So aside paying a premium for a sprint, what does this really bring that the normal s30v version doesn't? I wouldn't call Aluminum vs Carbon Fiber a huge win either way. s30v vs Cruwear, Cruwear for durability but s30 from what I could find should hold an edge longer and be more corrosion resistant. I'm sure that varies some by heat treat etc.

Just seems like when you can order the normal smock for around $180 delivered if you shop around (under $165 delivered if you really shop around), $280 for a cruwear version is a huge premium.
It's the scales mostly but i'd take g-10 or titanium over aluminum any day of the week. The Rex45 smock was also $245 though. for a thin hollow ground edge on a sheeps I personally don't see the appeal of toughness over edge retention when all it will be used for is slicing, or more realistically fidgeting. If this was s90v I would have bought it yesterday as I value stainless and edge retention over all.

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 5:52 am
by Mrj

Re: C240BKALBKCWP Black Cruwear Smock Exclusive

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:27 am
by dull&blunt
Soban wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:35 am
Toddm wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:31 pm
So aside paying a premium for a sprint, what does this really bring that the normal s30v version doesn't? I wouldn't call Aluminum vs Carbon Fiber a huge win either way. s30v vs Cruwear, Cruwear for durability but s30 from what I could find should hold an edge longer and be more corrosion resistant. I'm sure that varies some by heat treat etc.

Just seems like when you can order the normal smock for around $180 delivered if you shop around (under $165 delivered if you really shop around), $280 for a cruwear version is a huge premium.
It's the scales mostly but i'd take g-10 or titanium over aluminum any day of the week. The Rex45 smock was also $245 though. for a thin hollow ground edge on a sheeps I personally don't see the appeal of toughness over edge retention when all it will be used for is slicing, or more realistically fidgeting. If this was s90v I would have bought it yesterday as I value stainless and edge retention over all.
Toughness can sometimes indicate the amount of carbide in the steel. Generally less carbide means higher toughness as cracks in in steel usually follow form from carbide to carbide. Rex.45 actually has less carbides than other steels in its edge retention range. This is due to its hardness. Thats why I think it's a popular steel. Less carbides means it's easier to sharpen, less chippy, etc. But its hardness makes up for less carbides and contributes to its edge retention by keeping the existing carbides in place. This is my guess tho, probably wrong lol