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Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:10 am
by twinboysdad
Teddy0215 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 9:21 am
twinboysdad wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 8:37 am
In the size range we are getting to, doesn’t the Military kind of eclipse both Shaman and Chief?
I’ve never really been drawn to the Military. I don’t like tip down carry and I don’t like liner locks in general. Nothing against them, just not my jam.
Backlock is my favorite but the Millie is just an anomaly. I don’t like comp locks as I don’t like free swinging blades. Have you handled a Millie?

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:45 am
by Teddy0215
twinboysdad wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 11:10 am
Teddy0215 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 9:21 am
twinboysdad wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 8:37 am
In the size range we are getting to, doesn’t the Military kind of eclipse both Shaman and Chief?
I’ve never really been drawn to the Military. I don’t like tip down carry and I don’t like liner locks in general. Nothing against them, just not my jam.
Backlock is my favorite but the Millie is just an anomaly. I don’t like comp locks as I don’t like free swinging blades. Have you handled a Millie?
I haven’t. No where around here has them in stores and I don’t want to to buy one and bother with selling it if I didn’t like it.

Btw, I have twin girls. Crazy, but fun. The girls are 2.5 and big brother is 4.5.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 11:49 am
by twinboysdad
Teddy0215 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 11:45 am
twinboysdad wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 11:10 am
Teddy0215 wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 9:21 am
twinboysdad wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 8:37 am
In the size range we are getting to, doesn’t the Military kind of eclipse both Shaman and Chief?
I’ve never really been drawn to the Military. I don’t like tip down carry and I don’t like liner locks in general. Nothing against them, just not my jam.
Backlock is my favorite but the Millie is just an anomaly. I don’t like comp locks as I don’t like free swinging blades. Have you handled a Millie?
I haven’t. No where around here has them in stores and I don’t want to to buy one and bother with selling it if I didn’t like it.

Btw, I have twin girls. Crazy, but fun. The girls are 2.5 and big brother is 4.5.
Well major props man, twins are hard. Mine are 14 now but birth- third grade shortened my life I am certain.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:15 pm
by Teddy0215
So, my ADHD is kicking in hard and I have too many knives waiting to be used. I’m not going to be able to make myself do this for 30 days.

I have realized in 5 days that I do love the Chief though. I’ll continue to update here with any interesting findings.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:26 pm
by curlyhairedboy
stick it out for a week, it's a nice enough period.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:41 pm
by Zive
As a heads-up the satin M4 Chief is back in stock at BHQ

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:44 pm
by Teddy0215
Zive wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 12:41 pm
As a heads-up the satin M4 Chief is back in stock at BHQ
Shows all OOS for me still.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:46 pm
by Zive
There was only one so it’s likely sold back out

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 3:52 pm
by Teddy0215
Some initial impressions switching to the Shaman for the last day and a half…

Doesn’t slice nearly as well as the Chief, but that was to be expected. I also think I prefer the feel of the Chief in my hand for a lot of my usual tasks. The Shaman definitely feels beefier when bearing down through push cuts. I could see it replacing a small fixed blade while camping and fishing.

Going to carry the Shaman again tomorrow, but I am missing the Chief today. Maybe I’ll carry both.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:13 pm
by Stas
Just found this nice thread (as I’m making a decision which sprint of those to buy too late and overpriced :winking-tongue). Any updates here? How both feel after all that time?

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:39 pm
by Bemo
After all this Chief love, may need to give this a try.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:16 am
by Xformer
The whole Native line is carved in glory and good taste. Good job Spyderco. I'd buy them all if I could.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:17 am
by Teddy0215
Stas wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:13 pm
Just found this nice thread (as I’m making a decision which sprint of those to buy too late and overpriced :winking-tongue). Any updates here? How both feel after all that time?
I like the Chief more than the Shaman for my daily uses at work. It’s much slicer and it just feels better in my hand overall. Seems counterintuitive based on the Shaman’s contoured scales. I really like the Shaman as well though and grab it when I feel like I’ll be doing more abusive tasks. It’s more like a beefed up PM2 to me.

I did some trading for a second Chief in Rex45, if that tells you anything.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:25 am
by Sonorum
kennethsime wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pm
I’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.

I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
Cuscadi can make them for you.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:27 am
by kennethsime
Sonorum wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:25 am
kennethsime wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pm
I’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.

I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
Cuscadi can make them for you.
Maybe! I can’t find an example on their site. It seems like the liner less construction is hard to replicate in micarta.

Unfortunately, or luckily for my wallet, the M4 Chief is OOS for now.

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:06 pm
by Stas
Teddy0215 wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:17 am
Stas wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:13 pm
Just found this nice thread (as I’m making a decision which sprint of those to buy too late and overpriced :winking-tongue). Any updates here? How both feel after all that time?
I like the Chief more than the Shaman for my daily uses at work. It’s much slicer and it just feels better in my hand overall. Seems counterintuitive based on the Shaman’s contoured scales. I really like the Shaman as well though and grab it when I feel like I’ll be doing more abusive tasks. It’s more like a beefed up PM2 to me.

I did some trading for a second Chief in Rex45, if that tells you anything.
Thank you!

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:00 pm
by Fireman
Teddy0215 wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 1:08 am
kennethsime wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pm
I’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.

I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
You’re a micarta addict!🤪
I am

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:58 am
by Sonorum
kennethsime wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:27 am
Sonorum wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:25 am
kennethsime wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pm
I’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.

I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
Cuscadi can make them for you.
Maybe! I can’t find an example on their site. It seems like the liner less construction is hard to replicate in micarta.

Unfortunately, or luckily for my wallet, the M4 Chief is OOS for now.
I have scales on order right now, shoot them an email :smiling-cheeks

Re: M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:48 pm
by kennethsime
Sonorum wrote:
Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:58 am
kennethsime wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:27 am
Sonorum wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:25 am
kennethsime wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pm
I’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.

I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
Cuscadi can make them for you.
Maybe! I can’t find an example on their site. It seems like the liner less construction is hard to replicate in micarta.

Unfortunately, or luckily for my wallet, the M4 Chief is OOS for now.
I have scales on order right now, shoot them an email :smiling-cheeks
Oh man, thanks for the heads up David!

Definitely show us some pics when you get yours installed.