Been quiet in Sage town...

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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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sal wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:36 pm

We found some safety issues with the Neely lock. The button lock was one I was working on when covid hit.

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!!!

That's super exciting.

One of the only things I don't like about the Sage 5 is that the lock release is stiff and the cutout is small, so it applies a lot of pressure to the finger that is closing it. I feel like a button lock would solve this handily.
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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Maybe some grant and Gavin hawk locks? Ram?

Or that sidebar lock that crkt and elishewitz used?
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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Awesome! With so many Button Locks with aluminum handles I'm kinda hoping for an aluminum handle Sage! The Sage2 was the thinnest overall thickness of the bunch.
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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A CBBL sage would have me trying to stuff $20 bills into my computer. The M4 Sage lw really solidified that knife’s status as my favorite 3” Spyderco.
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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abbazaba wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:08 am
Awesome! With so many Button Locks with aluminum handles I'm kinda hoping for an aluminum handle Sage! The Sage2 was the thinnest overall thickness of the bunch.

If this happens, I hope they rework the pattern from the BHQ PM2. It is too aggressive.
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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p_atrick wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:38 am
abbazaba wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:08 am
Awesome! With so many Button Locks with aluminum handles I'm kinda hoping for an aluminum handle Sage! The Sage2 was the thinnest overall thickness of the bunch.

If this happens, I hope they rework the pattern from the BHQ PM2. It is too aggressive.

Agreed. I was thinking smooth aluminum like the Protech.

Who invented the button lock?
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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sal wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:36 pm
Larry_Mott wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 8:30 am
sal wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:11 pm
Yes, we're due, but capacity issues have slowed that train. I'll see what I can do?

sal
Hope springs eternal for a Neely lock Sage :)

Hi Larry,

We found some safety issues with the Neely lock. The button lock was one I was working on when covid hit.

sal
I see, that's too bad. I like the lock, have an old Timberline but besides the lock it is not an overly impressive knife. However i am glad to see any new Sage lock variant!
If you have a Neely prototype i'd gladly adopt it, i could even sign a contract that if i hurt myself with it i won't blame Spyderco :)
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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Spyderco should design a lock that can rival the shark lock.
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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knivesandbooks wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:31 pm
Button lock! (Auto Sage would be even cooler).
I believe Sal said he wouldn't do an Axis style lock out of respect for Benchmade in the past.
It would be very strange if he did. It wouldn't be Spyderco's style. Spyderco is probably the most innocent company when it comes to stealing other people's ideas.
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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Paraguy wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:40 pm
Spyderco should design a lock that can rival the shark lock.

We would more likely use his lock and pay him royalties.

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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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Paraguy wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:43 pm
knivesandbooks wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:31 pm
Button lock! (Auto Sage would be even cooler).
I believe Sal said he wouldn't do an Axis style lock out of respect for Benchmade in the past.
It would be very strange if he did. It wouldn't be Spyderco's style. Spyderco is probably the most innocent company when it comes to stealing other people's ideas.

Spyderco would never STEAL ideas of course, but nothing wrong in honoring a lock design of another company in a Spyderco if they find an arrangement that is fine with Benchmade (even though the patent on the axxis lock is expired anyway as far as I know)- ?
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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sal wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:13 am
Paraguy wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:40 pm
Spyderco should design a lock that can rival the shark lock.

We would more likely use his lock and pay him royalties.

sal
That would be awesome! I wonder what it would be like on the thin stock of the sage?
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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Wartstein wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:05 am
Paraguy wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:43 pm
knivesandbooks wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:31 pm
Button lock! (Auto Sage would be even cooler).
I believe Sal said he wouldn't do an Axis style lock out of respect for Benchmade in the past.
It would be very strange if he did. It wouldn't be Spyderco's style. Spyderco is probably the most innocent company when it comes to stealing other people's ideas.

Spyderco would never STEAL ideas of course, but nothing wrong in honoring a lock design of another company in a Spyderco if they find an arrangement that is fine with Benchmade (even though the patent on the axxis lock is expired anyway as far as I know)- ?
It is. What I mean is that Spyderco prefers to pioneer new ideas rather than doing what everyone else is doing. Every decent yet boring company is now incorporating an axis lock.
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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Paraguy wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:50 pm
Wartstein wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:05 am
Paraguy wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:43 pm
knivesandbooks wrote:
Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:31 pm
.....
....

Spyderco would never STEAL ideas of course, but nothing wrong in honoring a lock design of another company in a Spyderco if they find an arrangement that is fine with Benchmade (even though the patent on the axxis lock is expired anyway as far as I know)- ?
It is. What I mean is that Spyderco prefers to pioneer new ideas rather than doing what everyone else is doing. Every decent yet boring company is now incorporating an axis lock.
I see! And agree.

Just in case of the Sage series, I guess things might be different, since the motto here actually IS to display and showcase and give credit to various (also) already existing locks in one and the same platform - ?
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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Probably OT, but how about a Sage 2 with a new steel?
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Re: Been quiet in Sage town...

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kobold wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:27 pm
Probably OT, but how about a Sage 2 with a new steel?
/skedaddle
I'm hoping Sage2 with the CRK ceramic interface, though not likely.
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