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Re: Back lock action

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:52 pm
by Wartstein
Vivi wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:18 pm
Heavier blades definitely swing more easily. My Voyager XL free swings with ease. In fact I can pop it open without touching the blade or stud, just using inertia from a wrist flick.
My Micarta scale Endura, Pac Salt and Endela are within reach right now... I can do what you describe with all of those, though just when I hold the knives in a grip like I´d hold a pencil (pivot end of the handle facing downwards)

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:01 pm
by vivi
Pelagic wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:39 pm
I NEVER want a free swinging blade on a backlock. It can be dangerous and I prefer the pivot aiding the lock for stability when open. It reduces future blade play.
I feel the same about all folders to be honest. I like tightening the pivot until there's a touch of extra resistance.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:05 pm
by JuPaul
Pelagic wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:39 pm
I NEVER want a free swinging blade on a backlock. It can be dangerous and I prefer the pivot aiding the lock for stability when open. It reduces future blade play.
Yeah I'm actually thinking about tightening the pivot on that new Pac Salt if it won't screw up the blade centering. The way I close my back locks with one hand, I put my index finger near the pivot end of the scales, then disengage the lock, then bump the blade forward so I catch the ricasso with that index finger. On a free swinging blade, if I don't have my finger exactly in the right position exactly when i disengage the lock bar, seems like the potential to slice my fingers goes way up.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:40 pm
by Doc Dan
I close my backlock Spydercos by placing my index finger in the hole, pressing the lock, and lowering the blade. Then I move my index finger to the spine and snap it shut.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:25 pm
by T_MAC686
I still want to see how people are flicking their back locks with their pinkies... ;)

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:58 pm
by PStone
T_MAC686 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:25 pm
I still want to see how people are flicking their back locks with their pinkies... ;)
Captain of Crush #4 and a Beastmaker.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:16 pm
by vivi
Doc Dan wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:40 pm
I close my backlock Spydercos by placing my index finger in the hole, pressing the lock, and lowering the blade. Then I move my index finger to the spine and snap it shut.
I do the same except I keep my index finger on the hole for the entire closing action. It's always felt a lot more intuitive and safer than swinging the blade down on my index finger then closing it how most people seem to do.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:30 pm
by JuPaul
Doc Dan wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:40 pm
I close my backlock Spydercos by placing my index finger in the hole, pressing the lock, and lowering the blade. Then I move my index finger to the spine and snap it shut.
I need to practice that. One of these days I'll get a centofante and be basically ricassoless, so my usual technique would cost me a fingertip.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:40 am
by vivi
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Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:21 am
by Larry_Mott
T_MAC686 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:25 pm
I still want to see how people are flicking their back locks with their pinkies... ;)
They don't. They use the thumb like any sensible adult ;)

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:29 am
by T_MAC686
DirtMcGirt wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:58 pm
Captain of Crush #4 and a Beastmaker.

Haha I’ll believe it when I see it!!!

Larry_Mott wrote:
T_MAC686 wrote: I still want to see how people are flicking their back locks with their pinkies... ;)
They don't. They use the thumb like any sensible adult ;)

I’m with you on this one :D

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:42 am
by Doc Dan
Vivi wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:40 am
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This is basically what I do, but sometimes put my thumb in the hole instead. Or, I’ll use my index finger in the hole and guide it to 60* and the put my index finger on the spine and snap it shut like a traditional slip joint. In any case, it is safer than getting into the habit of letting the blade fall onto my finger because if I use a different knife I might forget and get cut.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:43 am
by Doc Dan
JuPaul wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:30 pm
Doc Dan wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:40 pm
I close my backlock Spydercos by placing my index finger in the hole, pressing the lock, and lowering the blade. Then I move my index finger to the spine and snap it shut.
I need to practice that. One of these days I'll get a centofante and be basically ricassoless, so my usual technique would cost me a fingertip.
The method Vivi and I use is much safer.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:43 am
by JuPaul
Doc Dan wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:43 am
JuPaul wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:30 pm
Doc Dan wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:40 pm
I close my backlock Spydercos by placing my index finger in the hole, pressing the lock, and lowering the blade. Then I move my index finger to the spine and snap it shut.
I need to practice that. One of these days I'll get a centofante and be basically ricassoless, so my usual technique would cost me a fingertip.
The method Vivi and I use is much safer.
Well, after attempting this method on a delica and on a pac salt last night, I don't think that's the case for me with small hands. Especially on the larger knife, when it's open I can't reach the lock and the hole at the same without contorting my hand into an awkward position, so when I pull the blade down it's not very controlled and my other fingers are in the blade path. Maybe with practice I'll have more control this way, but as it is, that way feels a lot more dangerous to me.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:00 am
by FK
If you are going to play/experiment with this,, use some masking tape on the blade edge.

Regards,
FK

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:18 am
by JuPaul
FK wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:00 am
If you are going to play/experiment with this,, use some masking tape on the blade edge.

Regards,
FK
Good call. Thx!

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:36 pm
by SG89
My caly 3.5 would drop shut. Smoothest backlock i ever owned. Looking forward to the frn version

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:44 pm
by Baron Mind
I really enjoy the feel of opening backlocks, and don't mind closing them. Probably my favorite lock type to open.

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:04 am
by Wartstein
T_MAC686 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:25 pm
I still want to see how people are flicking their back locks with their pinkies... ;)
As I was one of those (or even the only one?) who said he does so (or better just CAN do so, for I iactually never really use this method. It's definitely not practical by any means) let me repeat:
Of course in a reverse grip!!

Re: Back lock action

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:32 am
by T_MAC686
Wartstein wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:04 am
T_MAC686 wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:25 pm
I still want to see how people are flicking their back locks with their pinkies... ;)
As I was one of those (or even the only one?) who said he does so (or better just CAN do so, for I iactually never really use this method. It's definitely not practical by any means) let me repeat:
Of course in a reverse grip!!

I’m not doubting you, I just want to see it!! Can you put up a video of you doing this with some of your knives?