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I handled it once - beautiful to hold, but too big/thick for my purposes.
I read through some of the comments on the youtube video page, and everyone seems fixated on 440c. Even when cast, 440c is no longer adequate for a knife. Speaking as a reformed steel snob - I never realized how much steel impacts knife sales. I hope a sprint in AEB-L can give this knife another chance. Maybe RWL-34, since it is not common enough for people to scorn?

The casting makes it a better cutter, even though it is "still plain old vanilla 440C. "

Perhaps casting other steels might also make them better cutters, who knows?

When folk say that 440C is no longer adequate for a knife, and a lot have said that, I just let the edge do the talking.

I make thinner and smaller versions of the Serrata, and their more acute blade profile and edge thickness does improve the cutting ability by a small margin.

foofie wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:28 pm

I handled it once - beautiful to hold, but too big/thick for my purposes.
I read through some of the comments on the youtube video page, and everyone seems fixated on 440c. Even when cast, 440c is no longer adequate for a knife. Speaking as a reformed steel snob - I never realized how much steel impacts knife sales. I hope a sprint in AEB-L can give this knife another chance. Maybe RWL-34, since it is not common enough for people to scorn?

Your assertion that 440C is no longer adequate is certainly applicable to the marketing of high end knives, but in reality well HT'ed 440 (even 440A) can take a very good edge and hold it as well as many other "basic" offerings.

As far as cast/dendritic 440 is concerned, it's an interesting technical solution that isn't done often in the industry, so I would assume that it still has some cachet as a blade material ...at least with people who actually understand what cast 440C is.

I'm a card carrying steel snob and I would definitely buy a smaller and thinner variant of the Serrata, but as much as I like the design and materials I can't justify buying one, as such a heavy duty blade would probably never get any use.

^^^
That's where I am at these days.

Don't have a problem with 440C, but the heavy duty blade isn't getting used. Now slim it out with the same materials, make it more agile, might take a second look.
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Sorry - let me clarify
I was relaying the comments on the video - they are all piling on to the "inadequate" steel choice of dendritic 440c. I didn't mean for it to sound like I was voicing my opinion - I was not. I think the dendritic 440c is a different and interesting alternative to the high carbide steels we are using, and would like to see more of it. I just wish the the 440c were in a smaller knife (for my purposes).

I am happy to send a smaller version to Eric, but Spyderco is up to it's ears in submissions, so even if chosen to produce, it will take a few years before anyone sees it.

It will need another mold as well, but that can be done.
All my smaller versions were ground from full size Serrata blanks, FYI.

We would probably refrain from making another cast 440C knife. There were many issues to overcome in production (tolerance related). We would opt for a stock removal method on any future designs.

sal

https://youtu.be/MKE2sdlysMY

The casting process is expensive, so I knew you would say that Sal. :)
Hence my reason for never submitting a smaller version.

I have a "Serrata" in 3mm VG10, and one in 4mm O1 ( some folk like O1 :) )

The ergonomics are great. IMHO.
Lighter too.
And slicier... ( is that a word? :) )

Hi Stuart,

I don't know where Eric is at with the "Pug". I do know it's getting shown at meets and shows. You are always welcome to submit a smaller thinner stock removal version if you wish.

sal

Hi Sal.
Thank you.
Eric has a lot on his plate, so in time I might just do that. :)

Stuart Ackerman wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:08 pm

The casting process is expensive, so I knew you would say that Sal. :)
Hence my reason for never submitting a smaller version.

I have a "Serrata" in 3mm VG10, and one in 4mm O1 ( some folk like O1 :) )

The ergonomics are great. IMHO.
Lighter too.
And slicier... ( is that a word? :) )

Oooohhh... I like O1. A 3mm O1 version would be awesome!

I hope nobody minds me mentioning this, but Stuart is very generously raffling an original Serrata over on Edge Matters forum in aid of Cliff Stamp’s appeal.

I know there are EM members here, and there are still a few raffle slots available....

Stuart Ackerman wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:49 pm

Hi Sal.
Thank you.
Eric has a lot on his plate, so in time I might just do that. :)

Sooner, rather than later I hope. I picked up a Spyderco fixed blade this year, and the Serrata is near the top of my list for the next.

FYI, the different shapes I made using the Serrata template...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYIR2nAgbDk ... rmanknives

Hi Stuart,

Very nice designs.

sal

3rd one up from the bottom looks like a nice bird & trout knife. Nice lines.
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