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Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:53 pm
by Liquid Cobra
Jazz wrote:Honestly, if we can't get new stuff, there's not much point even checking out this forum. So much for an Endura wharncliffe. Some jackass customs idiot somewhere is right proud of himself too. I'd like to let his hind part meet my foot.
I just looked at W & W's prices. Looks like I'm done.
Well they have a business to run, and suddenly they can’t stock any products so they need to boost prices. I get it.
Don’t be done man. We need to come together to fight this. I’m really curious to see what Spyderco is willing to do to help.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:53 pm
by vivi
Jazz wrote:Honestly, if we can't get new stuff, there's not much point even checking out this forum. So much for an Endura wharncliffe. Some jackass customs idiot somewhere is right proud of himself too. I'd like to let his hind part meet my foot.
I just looked at W & W's prices. Looks like I'm done.
Knives that don't fold still pass :)
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:00 pm
by adancingmonkey
Most lockbacks and slip joints would likely pass as well.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:13 pm
by Liquid Cobra
adancingmonkey wrote:Most lockbacks and slip joints would likely pass as well.
Maybe slip joints only because they don’t lock. But lockbacks aren’t safe.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:56 pm
by mjdragonfly
Liquid Cobra wrote:adancingmonkey wrote:Most lockbacks and slip joints would likely pass as well.
Maybe slip joints only because they don’t lock. But lockbacks aren’t safe.
Sure, we are expected to see the Customs guard's logic and that is "if the pocket knife with a 3.5" blade has no lock then the knife is safe and harmless but if the pocket knife's blade has a lock then the pocket knife is deadly". Sure that makes total sense. Now we know where all the drugs that Customs confiscate goes to...the guards are smoking it!
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:34 am
by Liquid Cobra
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:43 am
by razorsharp
Good to see its getting attention
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:51 am
by TomAiello
Calling your legislator probably won't help. That's a decision made by (un-elected) bureaucrats. Democracy has no say in the decision.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:24 pm
by Liquid Cobra
Calling all Canadians!!!!!!
Below is a link to an actual petition created by a conservative member of parliament. If it gets to 500 signatures it will be discussed in the House of Commons which could lead to the recent CBSA ruling being reversed. Currently this is our best chance at a reversal. So if you are Canadian, and care about being able to continue to purchase Spyderco products or any other folding knives please sign.
Signing it only takes a second.
https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Peti ... ion=e-1552
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:43 pm
by KingRat
Liquid Cobra wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:24 pm
Calling all Canadians!!!!!!
Below is a link to an actual petition created by a conservative member of parliament. If it gets to 500 signatures it will be discussed in the House of Commons which could lead to the recent CBSA ruling being reversed. Currently this is our best chance at a reversal. So if you are Canadian, and care about being able to continue to purchase Spyderco products or any other folding knives please sign.
Signing it only takes a second.
https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Peti ... ion=e-1552
Signed. It was easy enough. Looks as thought it will be a few months. We'll see.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:34 pm
by jarvis959
Signed! As of now we've got 6x the number of signatures needed for the House of Parliament to have to address it, but more is obviously pressure politicians to take it seriously.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:31 pm
by ekastanis
TomAiello wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:51 am
Calling your legislator probably won't help. That's a decision made by (un-elected) bureaucrats.
All bureaucrats report up to a legislator. In the case of the CBSA, that's Ralph Goodale, Minister of Public Safety, MP for Regina-Wascana. In the case of the CITT, that's Bill Morneau, Minister of Finance, MP for Toronto-Centre.
That said, calling these legislators probably won't help. Voting them out on the other hand... If the previous government was able to scrap the long gun registry, surely they would be able to get folding knives flowing across the border again.
BTW, new forum member, really enjoy my Delica, Endura and PM2.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:54 pm
by mjdragonfly
Assisted open knives are important too especially for folks with joint issues (I have learned) who may have difficulty with flippers thumb studs or spydie holes.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:07 am
by BigCanadian
Stopping the import of all folding knives that can be
opened with one hand, is ridiculous!!
If you are Canadian, please sign this petition, then share it on your social media. Thank you.
https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Sign/e-1552
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:48 am
by Gsg9
BigCanadian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:07 am
Stopping the import of all folding knives that can be
opened with one hand, is ridiculous!!
I've heard that the spydienailnick will be the next big thing
On the other hand there's a huge border between the
peoplehole females republic of trudeau and the States
Summer holidays, get a bus into US, fill a backpack full of spydercos and have a nice hiking thru the woods back home
When there's a will there's a way, Spyderprohibition can be eluded :D
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:40 am
by BigCanadian
Gsg9,
Trust me, I didn't vote for Trudeau.
If I lived close and had the funds, I would drive across that border, into the U.S.A., and buy some Spydies.
The knives are not illegal to own, just not able to get through Canada Customs. Makes a lot of sense, right?
Enjoy your Land Of The Free :)
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:45 am
by Hal Ling
I can say that I have ordered 2 Spydercos recently (in late Jan); one being the Starmate and the other the Lil Lionspy, from a seller on Amazon, and both knives shipped from the US, passed through Canada customs, and were released for delivery after sitting in customs about 10 days each. The one I got in my mailbox here in Alberta about 2 weeks ago, the other was marked as "delivered" but wasn't -but that's due to the crappy local Canada Post service and not because of Border Services seizing the knife.
So I think enforcement will continue to be very sporadic -at least initially. The old workaround of having the seller simply tighten down the pivot screw so that the blade can't be easily opened has been identified by Border Services as an attempt to circumnavigate the restriction and probably won't be enough to allow a knife through anymore. A better solution perhaps; the blades could be removed and shipped separately. It might void a warranty, but it's better than not getting the knife at all.
I have another Syderco en route from Russia as I type this. I will keep everyone posted about what happens with that knife as well. At the end of the day, you're probably still taking a risk, no matter what you do.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:51 pm
by Tdog
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 am
by IR192
Donated, shared also. This is ******.
Re: Knives going out of stock in Canada?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:23 pm
by Tims
Condolences to all Canadians.
This reminds me of the dark days of import restrictions we faced here in Australia. Even lockbacks were fair game. I got a few through early on by asking sellers to tighten pivots(or perhaps luck?) but after losing a Delica to customs I realised it was all over. On principal I wasn't willing to pay the outrages sums Oz retailers were charging.
That period had a real impact on my enthusiasm for knives. Looking online at all the knives I couldn't have gave me the sh*ts so I stopped looking.
Given the attitude toward knives at the time, I stopped carrying altogether.
Then one day, years later I thought I would punish myself by looking at what new models I had been missing out on. It was then I discovered the restrictions had been lifted. Very rarely are your rights returned after being taken away.
So I guess the moral of that story is, hard as it is now, there is hope that things may return to the way they were.
Goodluck