2003 Spyderhawk VG10 C77SBK

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Re: 2003 Spyderhawk VG10 C77SBK

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Good pictorial review Peacent >> I'm hearing more and more about how great Spyderco's hawkbills work in the garden. Also when using a Hawkbill for gardening and landscaping purposes you just know without even thinking much about it that the more blade you have the better it's going to work for you. Which is why the Spyderhawk should be in every gardener's and landscaper's toolbox.

I had an old farmer friend from years back that used to do a lot of grafting with apple and pear trees. I know that companies like Victorinox makes knives especially for grafting but I'm now wondering if Hawkbill blades would even work better yet. It just makes sense that Hawkbill blades would work great for anyone in that field or anything related to that field of endeavor.

Grafting may be one cutting job where a plain edged Hawkbill might just be the tool of choice. And again for theses types of jobs I can't think of any other Hawkbill model that would work better than the Spyderhawk ( SE or PE).
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I don't have a lot of grafting experience, but it seems to me that a hawkbill would be very awkward to use for those cuts. But for pruning, oh yeah. I wish I'd had my H-1 Spyderhawk back when I was in the landscaping biz. It's my pocket chainsaw.
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yablanowitz wrote:I don't have a lot of grafting experience, but it seems to me that a hawkbill would be very awkward to use for those cuts. But for pruning, oh yeah. I wish I'd had my H-1 Spyderhawk back when I was in the landscaping biz. It's my pocket chainsaw.
And you may be right about my comments on "grafting" because I admit that I know very little about it. But I just thought that a plain edge with a pull cut might give a guy some control that he otherwise wouldn't have. But I sure could be wrong about that.

On the other hand regarding the H-1 Spyderhawk in full SE>> I would think every landscaper, gardener and to a large extent any of the marine uses and/or commercial fishing jobs the H-1 Spyderhawk would be thee paramount model for those types of cutting jobs. If people would get past the appearance of the Spyderhawk and look at what it's capable of I think sales would have been exponentially higher than they have been up till now. My main point being >> The Hawkbill blade is probably the most misunderstood blade. Because self defense and martial arts are only a tiny part of what Hawkbill blades are useful for>> yet many people think that is all they are good for :confused:
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Yeah, no rival for pruning

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But for grafting I must admit, these Vics work much better,

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or even the serrated OHO vic blades work more quickly and precisely than the Tasman or Spyderhawk

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The right tool for the job! And almost disposable ($10 or so)

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ThePeacent wrote:Yeah, no rival for pruning
But for grafting I must admit, these Vics work much better,

or even the serrated OHO vic blades work more quickly and precisely than the Tasman or Spyderhawk
Great point Peacent!! Because next to Spyderco's serrations the ones that Victorinox makes are my current second favorite. I have a couple of Victorinox's serrated Swiss Army Knives and I also have a couple of their multitools just like the ones in your picture which both have serrated blades in their kit. I have the swiss Tool and Swiss Tool X. Personally I've yet to find a multitool that I like better than the ones made by Victorinox.

The serrated edges that Victorinox puts on their knives appear quite simple but they are very effective and relatively easy to keep sharp too. I've used the SE blade on my Swiss Tool several times and it works nicely.

And to address what YAB was talking about Victorinox probably has the best overall selection of grafting knives that I'm aware of. I still have a couple of them from 05 that I got at one of the BLADE Shows. It's hard to beat Victorinox for no more than they charge for their cutlery and tools. I know a couple of professional meat cutters that swear by their stuff. All I ever hear those guys talk about are Victorinox and F. Dick of Germany.

I don't know if Victorinox has a serrated Hawkbill or not but I'm sure that Spyderco probably has no competition in that area>> especially with the Spyderhawk model.
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JD Spydo wrote:
ThePeacent wrote:Yeah, no rival for pruning
But for grafting I must admit, these Vics work much better,

or even the serrated OHO vic blades work more quickly and precisely than the Tasman or Spyderhawk
Great point Peacent!! Because next to Spyderco's serrations the ones that Victorinox makes are my current second favorite. I have a couple of Victorinox's serrated Swiss Army Knives and I also have a couple of their multitools just like the ones in your picture which both have serrated blades in their kit. I have the swiss Tool and Swiss Tool X. Personally I've yet to find a multitool that I like better than the ones made by Victorinox.

The serrated edges that Victorinox puts on their knives appear quite simple but they are very effective and relatively easy to keep sharp too. I've used the SE blade on my Swiss Tool several times and it works nicely.

And to address what YAB was talking about Victorinox probably has the best overall selection of grafting knives that I'm aware of. I still have a couple of them from 05 that I got at one of the BLADE Shows. It's hard to beat Victorinox for no more than they charge for their cutlery and tools. I know a couple of professional meat cutters that swear by their stuff. All I ever hear those guys talk about are Victorinox and F. Dick of Germany.

I don't know if Victorinox has a serrated Hawkbill or not but I'm sure that Spyderco probably has no competition in that area>> especially with the Spyderhawk model.
Unfortunately Vic does not make any serrated hawkbill (they do have hawkbill shaped blades, though), but their serrations are easy to sharpen and deliver cutting performance, just like the Spydies.

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My finger can confirm that.

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The only two serrated patterns that I've found close or equal to Spyderco patterns are those in my Utilitac II from Ontario, agressive albeit bendy and unstable for tough fibers, very similar to my Byrd's.

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And the other one, as I said somewhere else, it's Cold Steel's. Much more agressive, but really delicate and fragile, those teeth just rip through anything, but not for long.

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The two meanest cutting SE blades I have are these two, hands down, but I'd trust the Spyderhawk for heavier work. I agree that Spydies have the best balance between toughness, ease of sharpening and cutting power ;)


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